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Driving is a right and not a privilege

Just came across this - Shoppers fury that bollard dares to damage her car "A furious shopper has been locked in a nine-month battle with ...

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    Just came across this - Shoppers fury that bollard dares to damage her car

    "A furious shopper has been locked in a nine-month battle with Sainsbury’s after his wife hit a bollard in one of its car parks."


    Now I may just be a little cynical but shirely it is the driver of a cars responsibility to ensure that they don't drive into things / people / animals...

    But this couple seem to think it is everyone else that should make sure they don't get in the way?




    Spoiler - Excuse my french
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    Response #2 to the linked story...

    "Maybe she sould have gone to specsavers instead of sainsburys"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenkins View Post
    Response #2 to the thread...

    "Maybe she sould have gone to specsavers instead of sainsburys"
    Just read the comments, thank god it seems the general consensus is that she's an idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by vereor View Post
    Just read the comments, thank god it seems the general consensus is that she's an idiot
    Presumably the bollard was about the same height as a small child
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    I used to drive lorries and I found that getting out and looking before reversing into the unknown was a big help.

    Or even (wait for this one) looking for obstacles such as low bollards before getting into the driving seat.
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    Is it just me that thinks he is married to his sister? Cousins at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nidge View Post
    Presumably the bollard was about the same height as a small child
    So, you buckle yourself in the car and look around before reversing - nothing to be seen. Do you now sit there, immobile for the rest of the day in case there's a small child in the blind spot? Or do you get out of the car and look around, after which you get back in, fasten up your seat belt and reverse away.... oh no, can't do that in case another child has snuck up.

    I sympathise with the complainant in this one, if only based on the fact that most supermarket car parks are designed by complete nobheads. As a biker I don't tend to assume that all roadside furniture is fit for purpose.
    It would be interesting to know what Sainsburys' justification is for bollards that can't be seen from the driver's seat. Personally I think the idea sucks big fat willies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
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    Did she not notice the thing when she drove into the gap though? I'd like to see a picture of the bollard in relation to the parking space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    So, you buckle yourself in the car and look around before reversing - nothing to be seen. Do you now sit there, immobile for the rest of the day in case there's a small child in the blind spot? Or do you get out of the car and look around, after which you get back in, fasten up your seat belt and reverse away.... oh no, can't do that in case another child has snuck up.

    I sympathise with the complainant in this one, if only based on the fact that most supermarket car parks are designed by complete nobheads. As a biker I don't tend to assume that all roadside furniture is fit for purpose.
    It would be interesting to know what Sainsburys' justification is for bollards that can't be seen from the driver's seat. Personally I think the idea sucks big fat willies.
    If she chooses to drive a huge 4X4 where the drivers seat is so high she cannot see objects the size of a child then should she not get blind spot mirrors installed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back-Marcus View Post
    If she chooses to drive a huge 4X4 where the drivers seat is so high she cannot see objects the size of a child then should she not get blind spot mirrors installed?


    It was at a funny angle

    A picture of a typical sainsburys bollard...
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    Reminds me of the comment a bloke a said to my missus after reversing into her car in his Mitsubishi L200:

    'Sorry, Love. I can't see I thing behind me when I reverse this thing'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    So, you buckle yourself in the car and look around before reversing - nothing to be seen. Do you now sit there, immobile for the rest of the day in case there's a small child in the blind spot? Or do you get out of the car and look around, after which you get back in, fasten up your seat belt and reverse away.... oh no, can't do that in case another child has snuck up.

    I sympathise with the complainant in this one, if only based on the fact that most supermarket car parks are designed by complete nobheads. As a biker I don't tend to assume that all roadside furniture is fit for purpose.
    It would be interesting to know what Sainsburys' justification is for bollards that can't be seen from the driver's seat. Personally I think the idea sucks big fat willies.
    Supermarket car parks are designed to get the maximum number of spaces possible within the space available as the amount of spaces dictates how large the retail area of the store can be (although tesco are well known for flaunting this - they did it at Oxford and the building inspector brought it up, they came back with a "we can close the store but it will result in the loss of 500 local jobs" type reply and the council backed down).

    In all my time in shopfitting, using supermarket car parks and general use of the roads, car parks etc. I have never seen a bollard that has snuck up on anyone or anything.
    I have however witnessed many people, (majority of them women, IME) who struggle with manouvering in car parks and other tight spaces resulting in them clipping bollards, other cars, an old dear with a trolley, myself (6'2" and in a visi vest!).
    If everyone had a quick check around their car in such situations I reckon small dings of this type would halve easily.

    I myself have clipped a bollard whilst reversing and turning - guess whos fault that was?
    Mine; (I even checked and saw it there but promptly forgot it was there, until the thump )
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    Quote Originally Posted by vereor View Post
    A picture of a typical sainsburys bollard...
    Theres a whole fucking gang of them lying in wait for the unsuspecting unobservants there
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    The exact location / bollards...

    link here
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    Whilst the knee-jerk "What if that was a bollard-high child!?" response is all well and good, children can get the fk out of the way if the car takes its timeand makes it's intentions clear.

    Inanimate objects don't change position very often, so if you don't see them... well...

    *jumps up and down making spakka noises*
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