Would you be happy for your colleagues to know what you earn and vice versa?

Do you think it's more of an issue for employers in the private sector trying to minimise the request for raises, because 'C' &copy Banana 2012 does the same job as 'A'?

I don't really care if people know what I earn. I've always been underpaid because I'm not a squeaky wheel, I don't have expensive tastes [that demand I go and chase six figures] and I fucking hate the corporate culture.

I found out yesterday how much a colleague earned yesterday - it was pitiful and surprising because realistically he should be on almost double given his experience. Difficult to know what to say when the difference is so great. If he wasn't a mate I'd find it funny.

It's easier to say nothing.

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

Well that all depends on the level of "admin" and the area in the country. I would've thought admin pay scales would be one of the easiest to find out tbh.

I've never really tried to find out TBH, I just expected it to be difficult to find out pay scales in a private company and for it to be different to public service scales.

Originally Posted by Anne

I've never really tried to find out TBH, I just expected it to be difficult to find out pay scales in a private company and for it to be different to public service scales.

Do a search for the vacanies either temp or perm and for what level of admin and you'll find lots of jobs that'll show up the ball park figures for them.

I don't think I'd want to know. Wouldn't feel comfortable with others knowing what I earn either. I suspect there is quite a bit of disparity tbh, I know I negotiated my current deal very hard and suspect others doing similar are doing it for a substantial amount less. There are probably people doing it for more as well. I can't see any benefit to me to knowing either way, I'd like to believe it wouldn't matter but I'm a competitive fucker and it would always be at the back of the mind - especially at pay review time

This is one of the reasons IMO directors of public companies are paid in share options so much (and bonuses with arcane conditions). Yeah, it's partly about incentivising results but it's also because their pay is in the public domain so if you muddy the waters you get less aggro/it's less obvious to everyone what they earn

Of course Gremmers, as you know in Sweden it's pretty easy to find out what everyone earnt just by buying the tax calendar. (Or knowing what they put on their tax return, which may not be the same thing)

As fruity says its a matter of public record for us, not bothered if people know or not, it depends on what value you put on a job that matters to me.

I dont think everyone here would be bothered although some would. There are a lot of people that work here because they want to actually work here. Quite a few have turned down more lucrative internal promotions jobs too Always struck me as odd at first but I get them now.

For moi, earnings were always a thing of privacy and I wouldn't dream of asking anyone what they earned and would feel it rude to do so and vice versa.

IT contractors are pretty open about their salary but dividends are a different matter, what I'd really love to know is how much the agency is charging for me.

Originally Posted by Mussels

IT contractors are pretty open about their salary but dividends are a different matter, what I'd really love to know is how much the agency is charging for me.

Depends on the role and the industry sector, we've paid anywhere between 8% for senior engineers to 17% for juniors, there is also the length of contract that comes into play.

Originally Posted by londonirish

As fruity says its a matter of public record for us, not bothered if people know or not, it depends on what value you put on a job that matters to me.

What the gunbunny said

Originally Posted by dodgy

Of course Gremmers, as you know in Sweden it's pretty easy to find out what everyone earnt just by buying the tax calendar. (Or knowing what they put on their tax return, which may not be the same thing)

Of course, I'd put my salary up here, but if people discovered the truth about 99.9% of bank salaries it would give them nothing to moan about.

Oh to shatter the illusions.....Rock and roll lifestyle? More like sausage roll.

Jesus! How boring! Money, money money!

It would be more interesting to see Post-Its along the lines of who's shagging Sally in the mail department? Who has the biggest cock? Which moron left their bacon sandwich in the foundations for the extension to the Mosque? Who robbed the packet of Hob-Nobs from the canteen? Who left the milk out to go sour?

That's real life that is. Just like TRC.

Originally Posted by KorkyKat

Jesus! How boring! Money, money money!

It would be more interesting to see Post-Its along the lines of who's shagging Sally in the mail department? Who has the biggest cock? Which moron left their bacon sandwich in the foundations for the extension to the Mosque? Who robbed the packet of Hob-Nobs from the canteen? Who left the milk out to go sour?

That's real life that is. Just like TRC.

If the issue of money was, in fact, so very boring, there would be a whole lot less talk of it (not least on here) and C4 wouldn't spunk money on a documentary. Boring to you, perhaps, but a subject close to many a person's heart and wallet.

Luckily it matters not a jot to me. I have my incredible good looks and irresistible sex appeal to fall back on.

Grrrr.

A couple of years a ago, a now ex HR employee put the spreadhseet with everyone's earnings in it on the network, no idea how it was found but within 24 hours everybody had a copy.

It did not do well for staff morale, there were actually major fallings out between work mates doing similar jobs with a couple of grand a year difference in their basic.

Based on that fiasco and the subsequent crappy pay rises we all have an idea what the others are earning, and it still causes some bad blood now and then, particularly if one of the better paid senior managers (trust me, I'm not in that group) makes a mistake that filters down to the pond life

When I move to my next job I sure as hell hope they manage to keep the salaries secret there.

PS, what others earn only bothers me if they are ruddy incompetent and paid more than me, I'm a fair judge of incompetent and we have very few of them, but there are one or two out there as with most businesses.

By the by your link is for subscribers only.

I was making a somewhat oblique reference to money and how it has overly dominated our culture for the past five years or thereabouts.

M.P.'s expenses. Bankers bonuses. Robbing the public purse. Inflation - energy, food, fuel, pensions etc. Quantitative easing and all that shit. Hardly a day goes by without it dominating the media agenda. Even the Olympics is tarnished with the flogging off of the torches and the involvement of big business.

It's a savage indictment on what is supposed to be a 'modern' society.