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    BBC News - Bristow Group to take over UK search and rescue from RAF

    Cant help thinking that despite their claims a private firm isnt going to be better than the service we already have other than have faster helicopters.

    The navy rescue flying out of Prestwick passes directly over my house several times a day, how long before charging or insurance claiming is considered for a private form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstyr View Post
    BBC News - Bristow Group to take over UK search and rescue from RAF

    Cant help thinking that despite their claims a private firm isnt going to be better than the service we already have other than have faster helicopters.

    The navy rescue flying out of Prestwick passes directly over my house several times a day, how long before charging or insurance claiming is considered for a private form.
    Yes. I would imagine the insurance companies will get involved.

    But really, that's just capitalism for you.

    They want us all sat at home, buying goods and services until we BURST.

    And if the goods and services we want are things like walking / climbing / adventure sports / camping equipment / experience days, then hey, they can sell us these excellent value insurance policies including easy-to-understand grades of medical emergency and repatriation cover. So it's like, a win-win, yeh ?

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    Was done years ago at most SAR stations. Hasn't made any difference to the service, in fact it could be argued that it's improved as they've gone from ancient but good Sea Kings to very new, efficient, fast Agusta helicopters.
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    I think G-SARC is operated by Bristow.
    Lovely helicopter and, from what I saw, a great crew.
    I have a couple of videos of it landing outside our house (taking divers who've come up too quickly).
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    Mountain Rescue - Proudly sponsered by Everest Windows!


    To be honest, if you're stuck up a mountain, I doubt you care if you're picked up by somebody wearing a logo'd jacket.
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    Bristow, Bristow?
    Are they not the fellas that drop thier helicopters in the north sea every couple of years??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlongbeard View Post
    Bristow, Bristow?
    Are they not the fellas that drop thier helicopters in the north sea every couple of years??
    Yes, but the north sea is pretty notoriously bad flying conditions and considering the size of the fleet and the hours they put on those things they're not doing a bad job. They have picked up on a number of problems that have been adopted into check for all similar aircraft simply because Bristows put the hours in before anybody else. Personally I've never been fond of a mode of flying where the whole thing hangs off 4 bolts but they seem to do OK

    As regards SAR no particular problems with it being privatised, the state pays one way or another and as long as service standards don't slip or they try bringing charges for the service good luck to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    Personally I've never been fond of a mode of flying where the whole thing hangs off 4 bolts but they seem to do OK
    Could be worse. I believe some helicopters hang from just 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    Could be worse. I believe some helicopters hang from just 1.

    Affectionately known as the Jesus nut IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    Yes, but the north sea is pretty notoriously bad flying conditions and considering the size of the fleet and the hours they put on those things they're not doing a bad job. They have picked up on a number of problems that have been adopted into check for all similar aircraft simply because Bristows put the hours in before anybody else. Personally I've never been fond of a mode of flying where the whole thing hangs off 4 bolts but they seem to do OK

    As regards SAR no particular problems with it being privatised, the state pays one way or another and as long as service standards don't slip or they try bringing charges for the service good luck to them.
    I don't imagine the conditions on an average SaR to be much better, oh and rumoured to be around the 3 Billion mark for the contract
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlongbeard View Post
    I don't imagine the conditions on an average SaR to be much better, oh and rumoured to be around the 3 Billion mark for the contract
    I don't think they fly quite as much as yer average N Sea shuttle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    Could be worse. I believe some helicopters hang from just 1.
    They all hang from 1 shaft (the rotor head)
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    From the Bristow web site:

    Bristow has a long history of providing search and rescue services in the U.K., beginning in 1971 when Whirlwinds were replaced by Bristow S55 helicopters at RAF Manston in Kent.

    Since then Bristow has flown 44,000+ SAR operational hours and conducted 15,000+ SAR missions, during which more than 7,000 people have been rescued by Bristow crews.



    Hevn't they been doing the 'Queen's Flight' helicopters for years?
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    They all hang from 1 shaft (the rotor head)
    I just hope someone designed it with a bit of a safety margin. And someone else inspects it regularly.

    Seriously, I am amazed at things like this, and the very few bolts hanging huge engines on the wings of aircraft. The Victorian engineering idea of multiple rows of massive rivets or bolts looks so much more safe.
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    Oh they do, the inspection intervals on helis are ridiculously short. And operators have to have a reliability programme that can reduce intervals if they find stuff like early cracking or corrosion.
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