What actually happened was, he went to change lanes as I was next to his tailgate. Hard braking side slide and turning the bike to the left caused it to hit the centre of the van which was by then at an angle hence the rocker cover damage to the van. I bounced off and fell sideways and the back of my lid connected with the bumper of the van in the middle lane. Grab handle of my bike hit the inside of my knee and broke the top of my Tibia. No damage to my clothing at all and no other injuries. Bike stopped within 8m. Van is 5m long and I stopped 3m forward of it so speed was 15-20mph. Another witness has me doing 35-40 a further witness was on a bike 10m behind me and his statement matches mine exactly. Curently going through the insurance so it's a waiting game.
As for Gaudy that is harsh My late friend owned it before me and had a liking for Hi-vis paint. I have owned it for 6 years and use it as my commuter so I seen no reason to change it. I did add the LED's to make it more visible but they and the hi-vis paint failed me. It is now just a bit more scratched and bent and can be resurrected for £800 if I do it myself and use 2nd hand parts.
Last edited by maccecht; 15-04-12 at 12:18.
Stephen Prower, when he was with the BMF, made up a list that went something along the lines of:
Driver doesn't look
Driver looks, but you're hidden from view
Driver looks, but doesn't see
Driver looks, sees you, but makes the incorrect decision, perhaps based on lack of understanding
Driver looks, sees you, but doesn't care
If you wanted us Safety Nazis to get all vindictive on yo bruised @$$ , then Thermo'll add some info on the 'Habit of the invisibles' and risk compensation and Spin (who knows far more about filtering than I ever want to) will add some suggestion on worst case scenarios, safety margins, predictions etc.
FWIW, have you ever driven a van and experienced the poor rear visibility, particularly to the left quarter? I'm not saying 'don't filter' - just suggesting that, perhaps, it wasn't the best place to commit yourself . . .
I consider my self a reasonable rider and have ridden enough miles to have gained a decent Spidey sense and normally detect when an unplanned event is about to transpire. However in this case as there was another van parrallel in the middle lane and no gap for another vehicle to attempt to change lanes into the manouvre by the van in the rh lane caught me off guard. I still managed to lock the back wheel up in less than a meter so my reactions were quick enough unfortunatly the door and been closed on me and it was a forgone conclusion that I and the Tarmc were destined to meet. If it wasn't for the fact my own bike landed on my leg I would have got off scot free. My view is if you are not going to filter you might as well take the car. Yes it's a risk but riding a bike is a risky business because of all the points you have outlined above.
How wide was the gap that you didn't hit the van in L2?
He doesn't say that he moves and in fact says that he doesn't change lane. His case seems to be that he wanted to turn left, Macchect was filtering too quickly and panicked when Mac saw his indicator. Mac then braked too hard, and
fell offdismounted while filtering.
He does put his foot in it when he talks about Mac not being able to stop when he (Mac) sees the indicator. Say what? There is a conspicuous absence of impact in his description though - I wonder why?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Macchect was at fault here, but I read Mr Van Driver's explanation differently.
Y'now... I hate that statement. Your goal is to arrive safely.My view is if you are not going to filter you might as well take the car.
I don't know why you think it's a surprise when drivers chance position in lane - it happens all the time. For example, when a driver tries to get a better view of the road situation ahead.
I know I'm on a hiding to nothing because everyone knows it's always the driver's fault, but it does seem from what you've said you contributed to your own bad luck. Quite a few times I've clonked a leg or crash bar on the side of a car or a van, been pushed over and onto the bonnet of another car on another occasion, and in one memorable incident I got stuck in a narrowing gap as I misjudged the light sequence, and as the truck alongside moved off my mirror caught in the truck's tautliner (fortunately the stem unscrewed as he moved off - another despatch trick to avoid having to continually replace mirrors after a minor spill or the bike being knocked over!) and I can honestly say that on those occasions it all went pearshaped a retrospective view told me I really shouldn't have put the bike there.