iPhone 4 Antenna Debacle?

**stoo** · 20-07-10, 22:15

Originally Posted by brownie

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Ah fair enough. I had seen mention of that one too.... but decided to ignore it completely until I'd filled up the onboard storage

**Alex Dangerfield** · 20-07-10, 22:47

Originally Posted by Superhero Tony

I think he's talking about the actual iPhone 4 and not ios4. Plenty of 3g users are unhappy with ios4. Apparently it's a bit sluggish.

it *is* sluggish on 3g phones.. I say sluggish, a bit slower than before but it is an issue, albeit one currently (fingers crossed) worked on. 4.1 came out at a hefty 350 ish meg yesterday (or the day before)

**Screwdriver** · 20-07-10, 23:58

iOS4 is dead slow on the elderly 3G, as you would expect

On the 3GS it's pretty damned close in performance to the iPhone 4 which is why you can only get the 8GB version new now (or I'd be getting a "cheap" 32GB 3GS). Interestingly, the 3GS has always had a nominal 800MHz processor running at 600MHz.

Watched a mate of mine demonstrate his iP4 (with the latest patch applied) drop it's signal down to nil whilst still on a call. No loss of audio either way, no dropped calls so far. Weird.

I'll be rolling back to OS3 on my old 3G (I sold my other iPhone) and if I run into any issues, I'll post them up. I might try a later iOS4 if it addresses the speed issue but I wouldn't bet on it. Frankly, I'm surprised it can run it at all in a non multitasking environment.

**wheelnut** · 21-07-10, 09:07

If it was known to be sluggish on the 3g then the update shouldn't be pushed down to 3g phones.

I'm downloading 4.01 as we speak - if that doesn't help then it's back to 3.whatever.

It's just time consuming - time I don't have at the moment.

**McNab** · 21-07-10, 09:34

How do we go about rolling back to 3.whatever on the 3g phones?

**Alex Dangerfield** · 21-07-10, 11:31

Originally Posted by wheelnut

If it was known to be sluggish on the 3g then the update shouldn't be pushed down to 3g phones.

I'm downloading 4.01 as we speak - if that doesn't help then it's back to 3.whatever.

It's just time consuming - time I don't have at the moment.

I kind of agree, it's not an approach I expected from apple given that their computers retain more or less good speeds despite many OS upgrades. OTOH this is possibly naive and the phone market is not the same thing. The phones work perfectly well on os3 it's the apps that need the support and I cant see a feasible, affordable solution that works for the consumer, for apple and the developers.

Once my 3g contract is up I shall be demanding a 3gs and according to the nice man at carphone warehouse thats not a problem. So if all goes well the only thing I've had to suffer is a slightly slower phone for a month and given the detrimental effect of OS 4 on older phones apple have (in theory) given customers an issue to demand an upgrade over. The last 3g phones are what? a year and a half old now so most contracts are up for renewal. in an ideal world I get to sell the old phone for £130 odd too.

The only apps no longer working are those that I.. well I stole them.

**Alex Dangerfield** · 21-07-10, 11:33

Originally Posted by McNab

How do we go about rolling back to 3.whatever on the 3g phones?

Download the IPSW to the desktop then point your phone towards that in Itunes whilst restoring, on a mac it's apple-click.. prob alt click on windows to manually navigate to said ipsw file.

**str0nach** · 21-07-10, 11:46

Originally Posted by wheelnut

If it was known to be sluggish on the 3g then the update shouldn't be pushed down to 3g phones.

I'm downloading 4.01 as we speak - if that doesn't help then it's back to 3.whatever.

It's just time consuming - time I don't have at the moment.

Can't see that it will do anything wrt running speeds as it's only a fix for the signal strength algorithm and a visual fix on the size of the signal bars.

**Mussels** · 21-07-10, 11:55

Originally Posted by str0nach

Can't see that it will do anything wrt running speeds as it's only a fix for the signal strength algorithm and a visual fix on the size of the signal bars.

That's what they said, what else are they sneaking through at the same time?
MS likes to attach unpublished changes to security updates which isn't always welcome.

**str0nach** · 21-07-10, 12:19

Originally Posted by Mussels

That's what they said, what else are they sneaking through at the same time?
MS likes to attach unpublished changes to security updates which isn't always welcome.

True enough I have been filled with the urge to kill fellow man since installing 4.01. I'd put it down to workstress but perhaps Jobs has a masterplan....

**Slenver** · 21-07-10, 12:34

Originally Posted by Mussels

That's what they said, what else are they sneaking through at the same time?
MS likes to attach unpublished changes to security updates which isn't always welcome.

Just because MS might do that (do they?) doesn't mean anyone else does. Never heard of Apple doing this.

Release notes for 4.01 just mention the signal bars.