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Just a random thought really - with inductive charging becoming standardised, and DLNA type servers, wifi, Bluetooth, NFC etc... When will the first communications device ...

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    Default Would you buy a phone without any ports?

    Just a random thought really - with inductive charging becoming standardised, and DLNA type servers, wifi, Bluetooth, NFC etc...


    When will the first communications device that is totally wireless appear?
    A phone (say), with inductive charging built in by default, and therefore no USB or power port. Supplied with a low-end pair of bluetooth stereo headphones (with mic no doubt), and with a built in file-server app that allows it to appear as a NAS on wifi (or something similar).

    Would such a piece of hardware be practicable?

    It could certainly be made to be totally waterproof (as an example), and more rugged than some currently are.

    I'm pretty sure none such devices are currently marketed, but would you consider one?
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    Default Re: Would you buy a phone without any ports?

    Wouldn't touch it.
    I don't want to have to think about charging headphones when I fancy a listen to some music, but the big one for me, I don't want to have to purchase multiple charging docks, give me a simple mini USB that can be found down the back of any sofa or in any office so I can jack in anywhere any time.

    That said I have never needed to charge during the day if I've charged the night before, its just, you know, why restrict yourself
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    Default Re: Would you buy a phone without any ports?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    Just a random thought really - with inductive charging becoming standardised, and DLNA type servers, wifi, Bluetooth, NFC etc...


    When will the first communications device that is totally wireless appear?
    A phone (say), with inductive charging built in by default, and therefore no USB or power port. Supplied with a low-end pair of bluetooth stereo headphones (with mic no doubt), and with a built in file-server app that allows it to appear as a NAS on wifi (or something similar).

    Would such a piece of hardware be practicable?

    It could certainly be made to be totally waterproof (as an example), and more rugged than some currently are.

    I'm pretty sure none such devices are currently marketed, but would you consider one?
    microUSB would be a minimum id expect

    i dunno its kinda comforting to be able to attach something to something else, in these days of 'virtuality'

    working in software i do sometimes think that what i work on isnt tangible... you cannot reach out and touch it, its all virtual and on a screen...

    kinda unnerving if you think about it too much... which i always do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    I'm pretty sure none such devices are currently marketed, but would you consider one?
    this might come a slight surprise to you, giving how fond I am of mucking about with old kit, but hell yeah. Only slight reservation I might have is how to simply connect it up to a HDMI ported telly in a hotel, but that's about it. And frankly if I'm on hols etc, last thing I'd be doing is wanting to watch shit whilst I could be out. Frankly I'm fed up of cables, hiding them, finding the blasted right ones etc.
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    Default Re: Would you buy a phone without any ports?

    Absolutely.

    I currently use the charging port on my iPhone and occasionally sit it in a dock for audio, but otherwise I'm wireless anyway - video and audio streaming use AirPlay, headphones use bluetooth, software updates are OTA wi-fi.

    It's an interesting question and I hadn't really thought in those terms about how much I've slowly switched to wireless from wired. My recent bluetooth headphones were the last remaining vital one aside from charging and they've made me a much happier person Give me inductive charging and I'd not miss any ports.

    That said, I'm not bothered about inductive charging per se. My phone is currently sat in a dock in front of me on my desk. It'd be sat there whether charging or not because it's a convenient place for it to sit. I'd still prefer that over some wireless charing plate anyway, I'd still want a dock for it to sit so whether it uses a dock or not is all but irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenver View Post
    Absolutely.

    I currently use the charging port on my iPhone and occasionally sit it in a dock for audio, but otherwise I'm wireless anyway - video and audio streaming use AirPlay, headphones use bluetooth, software updates are OTA wi-fi.

    It's an interesting question and I hadn't really thought in those terms about how much I've slowly switched to wireless from wired. My recent bluetooth headphones were the last remaining vital one aside from charging and they've made me a much happier person Give me inductive charging and I'd not miss any ports.

    That said, I'm not bothered about inductive charging per se. My phone is currently sat in a dock in front of me on my desk. It'd be sat there whether charging or not because it's a convenient place for it to sit. I'd still prefer that over some wireless charing plate anyway, I'd still want a dock for it to sit so whether it uses a dock or not is all but irrelevant.
    you not bothered about loss of audio quality due to compression of data?

    airplay is lossless afaik, but bt aint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenver View Post
    My recent bluetooth headphones were the last remaining vital one aside from charging and they've made me a much happier person
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    What did you get?
    Would love some very small bluetooth stereo headphones that actually worked decently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    you not bothered about loss of audio quality due to compression of data?

    airplay is lossless afaik, but bt aint
    In principal yes, in practice no. The headphones I bought sound good enough, as does the bluetooth Jambox I bought recently in the other thread for my OH. I didn't buy them in the other thread you understand, I just... you get the idea.

    I was slightly hesitant about buying BT headphones but was impressed enough from the Jambox to reckon they'd be good enough and I'm pleased enough. Like a lot of these things, you have to weigh the convenience against the cons. BT will compress and so lower the quality, but awesome convenience of wireless headphones makes up for it And tbh, they really do sound good enough to me. I have some 50 quid Beyer wired ones at home, so nothing high-end but way above the average person's shitty free in-ear Apple ones, and my BT ones sound as good as them. To me. For sitting on the train or listening at work they're more than up to the job.

    See post below re Apt-X
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    What did you get?
    Would love some very small bluetooth stereo headphones that actually worked decently.
    As is my way, I researched tirelessly I went for the Sennhesier MM-450X end. 200 quid so not cheap at all, and probably more than I needed to spend, but they are pretty nice. They're not tiny though, they're on-ear ones - so smaller than fully over-the-ear ones but not the in-ear kind. The pads are maybe an inch and a half across.

    Pros:
    - Comfy, sit on the ear quite firmly but not massive. No chance of just falling off though, a good tightish fit
    - Fold up nice and small. And come with a carry case if you like that sort of thing
    - Sound good
    - Last 10 hours
    - Noise-cancelling
    - Built-in mic so can take calls, use Siri etc
    - Talk-through function which switches off noise-cancelling, pauses music and uses mic to pick up outside sound and your own voice. Quick way by a press of a button to engage in conversation without taking them off or fiddling with sound controls etc
    - Simple controls on one earpiece for pause/FF/REW/noise-cancelling/Talk-through/Power
    - Sockets/cables/adaptors included so can use with wires and with plane sockets, either with noise-cancelling or completely passively using no battery.

    Cons
    - Bit spendy
    - Nothing else

    Couple of things of note. They support Apt-X which is a much higher-bitrate compression algorithm. Supposedly greatly improves sound quality on compatible devices. Sadly, not supported by iPhone without a dongle. Supported by OSX though so can use on my Mac. Haven't been disappointed enough to bother looking into the dongle, sound quality is entirely reasonable now. But means I'll have it for a future phone or software upgrade.

    Noise-cancelling probably isn't as full-on as other cans that are fully over-the-ear so able to block out more ambient sound. But freaky nonetheless. Work superbly on the train where they do allow some sound to a degree like announcements etc but entirely block out background train roar. Sennheiser do a 500X model which is the same but over-ear cup design, but I went for the size/cash compromise of the smaller model and think it was a good choice. Probably not great to have all sound completely masked.

    So far very happy indeed. Feels odd and yet excellent to be free of wires. Commuting by train, faffing with tickets, wallets, sticking jacket on the rack while removing kindle from pocket etc, all without once having anything ripped from your earhole and while enjoying non-stop music is extremely satisfying. Slenver score of 4.5/5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenver View Post
    As is my way, I researched tirelessly I went for the Sennhesier MM-450X end.
    Ah - cans (well - small cans).

    You didn't happen to research any of the ear-bud types did you??

    (Just been looking at the Plantronics BackBeat GO, Novero Rockaway & Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 models on Amazon)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    Ah - cans (well - small cans).

    You didn't happen to research any of the ear-bud types did you??

    (Just been looking at the Plantronics BackBeat GO, Novero Rockaway & Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 models on Amazon)
    Afraid not, sorry.

    One of the things I liked about the can types actually was that the BT part didn't really compromise the design either - the smaller ones have to have some kind of connecting wire still and place for battery etc. Mine are just standard, compact cans, merely sans cables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenver View Post
    Absolutely.

    I currently use the charging port on my iPhone and occasionally sit it in a dock for audio, but otherwise I'm wireless anyway - video and audio streaming use AirPlay, headphones use bluetooth, software updates are OTA wi-fi.

    It's an interesting question and I hadn't really thought in those terms about how much I've slowly switched to wireless from wired. My recent bluetooth headphones were the last remaining vital one aside from charging and they've made me a much happier person Give me inductive charging and I'd not miss any ports.

    That said, I'm not bothered about inductive charging per se. My phone is currently sat in a dock in front of me on my desk. It'd be sat there whether charging or not because it's a convenient place for it to sit. I'd still prefer that over some wireless charing plate anyway, I'd still want a dock for it to sit so whether it uses a dock or not is all but irrelevant.
    Also just thought about it, the only time the phone is connected to anything is when its on charge, the rest of the stuff is wireless. I only use the phone for music at the gym, sound quality ain't an issue and I have been thinking about Bluetooth earphones just for the lack of wires.

    Got to say a waterproof phone appeals to me more than the loss of sound quality/having to buy a couple of chargers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by go_slow View Post
    Also just thought about it, the only time the phone is connected to anything is when its on charge, the rest of the stuff is wireless. I only use the phone for music at the gym, sound quality ain't an issue and I have been thinking about Bluetooth earphones just for the lack of wires.

    Got to say a waterproof phone appeals to me more than the loss of sound quality/having to buy a couple of chargers.
    My thoughts exactly.
    As long as someone puts together a waterproof charger for use on the bike I'd be totally happy.
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    Default Re: Would you buy a phone without any ports?

    And yet no one here has either of the 2 waterproof Sony Xperia's
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlongbeard View Post
    And yet no one here has either of the 2 waterproof Sony Xperia's

    I'm >< this close to getting an Xperia Z at the end of the month. Can't decide between it and the HTC One.

    Neither have inductive charging. The ironic thing is that using the XperiaZ as a on-bike satnav would STILL require a rain cover because you need to unseal the microUSB to keep the battery topped up on a long journey (GPS takes a lot of battery power to maintain). If it had inductive charging built in I'd have it like a shot.
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