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I've used AutoCad 2002 LT for a number of years now, I know how to use it and it does what I want. Well it ...

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    I've used AutoCad 2002 LT for a number of years now, I know how to use it and it does what I want. Well it did until I got this new comp with Windows 7 64 bit OS. AutoCad doesn't like it and has sat in a corner huffing. I've been advised (on a model boat forum and by a Dutchman) that I could download Virtualbox, run Windows XP through that and then AutoCad on XP - where it works fine. It sounds like a plan but do any of you guys who know about IT stuff know about this and could give me a steer?

    Does it work like suggested, it's Open Source software (I like that) or is there anything that I should know - like "Don't touch it with a barge-pole!" I've tried using the Windows 7 facility of pretending to be an older OS like XP but I have the Windows 7 Home Premium edition and that facility isn't fully supported. AutoCad simply keeps crashing. Virtualbox sounds like a solution and a cheaper one than buying something like TurboCad which isn't too expensive.

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    I have it in my other computer now playing with windows 8. Its good. You can use it full screen or as a small window while still using the host computer. You can still go online so you may also want to pop an antivirus in there. CD ROM, USB all work just like your host computer. I do notice a slight lag if you don't have much ram but yes, go for it.
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    try running in compatibility mode. Also 7 Pro has XP virtually if you push it: Install and use Windows XP Mode in Windows 7
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    Compatability mode doesn't work fully on Win 7 Home Premium edition, only on Professional and Ultimate - or so I understand the situation. I've tried running AutoCad in compatability mode and it just keeps crashing.
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    get professional. Running AutoCAD on bare metal rather than a VM will be a very different experience. Unless you have 16Gb+ RAM and can give 8 to the guest. And and SSD to keep latency down.
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    How To: Setup XP-Mode on Win 7 Basic, Premium

    Get that Windows XP Mode to work on the locked versions of Windows 7 quick!

    One of the more interesting new tools that Windows 7 features is Windows XP Mode. Essentially, Windows XP Mode is a fully functional version of Windows XP that operates within Windows 7, much like how Parallels Desktop works on the Mac. By allowing users to seamlessly run Windows XP applications within Windows 7, application compatibility problems become virtually a thing of the past.

    Unfortunately, not all Windows 7 users have access to Windows XP Mode since it is not available in Windows 7 Home Premium and other less costly versions. In this article however, we will walk you through the steps needed to install Windows XP Mode, regardless of Windows 7 version.
    I'd try this ^ first (after checking for H.A.V), then Virtualbox, if it's too slow I'd dual boot with XP instead.

    Installing XP After Vista or 7 - EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies Wiki


    EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies
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    We use virtual box quite extensively but its a while since I did a clean install. Most of our guys use it as there base systems I.e the computer has nothing but anti virus installed on it, the fire up one to do office work (they will install office, email) in that, one for web browsing and any number for development. It means they can share dev environments between themselves and if they mess something up they delete the current version and go back to a good known version, all without affecting the machine I.e. it beats installing/removing software all the time.

    When I swapped laptops a little while back I was up and running in no time at all with all my apps etc all in place, so brilliant for that. It can be a resource hog but, as said, most of the guys don't run anything on the laptops. Only thing I would say is that once you get it working save a copy of the virtual machine, we've had vm's crash for no good reason but no more than windows crashes for example and having a back up makes recovery really quick.

    <edit>We run win 7 professional on the laptops but she no reason why it wouldn't work on home.
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    vmware, hyper-v, and xen here

    give me two bean cans and a bit of string anyday
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    Okay, just ran up virtualbox, you will need a copy of windows XP since it does not, for obvious reasons, come with any OS built in. The smart money says create a new virtual machine, install windows XP on it and then use this as a base i.e. this means you can always go back to a cleanly installed OS if you need to.
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    Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll be downloading Virtualbox as soon as I've found the XP disc I have stashed away somewhere

    I'm also trialing TurboCad 20 which is a cheap alternative to AutoCad but may well do everything I need at the moment. Sometimes I wish I was back in the Commodore Amiga days, it's all a bit funny running a virtual machine on your normal machine and loading programs into that but we'll give it a try and I'll come back and let you know.
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    If you are uneasy with virtual machine no chance of getting an old 2nd hand computer out your way?
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    I have an old computer upstairs mate. AutoCad works fine on it, in fact everything works fine on it. 'IT' though, doesn't work fine at all and is soon for the bin. Two blue screens in 20 minutes yesterday . . .

    It's about 6 years old and for around 3 of those years I didn't have a UPS to deal with the power cuts we have here. It also stood idle for nearly 18 months while I was in the UK and I had to remove a few families of insects when I returned. It had also suffered getting wet when the council decided to blast the drains clean and ended up filling my house with shit - a week before Mrs Y and I came over for a break from her chemo. I'm surprised it still starts up to be honest.
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    Well it seems I have successfully installed Virtualbox, installed windows XP in there and AutoCad 2002 LT on that. It operates with a considerably smaller screen but there may be a way to adjust that. I'll have a look see. It all works though, so thanks guys. I need to get it to recognise my printer so we're not 100% yet but hey, we're doing all right so far

    TurboCad is OK but draw one line on the page and another 5 or 6 appear! Not so sure I like that but I am used to AutoCad and new programs always take a bit of getting used to. If ACAD works OK though I'll probably not bother with TurboCad as ACAD does what I need.
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    Yes you will need to get the VM to notice the printer but remember you will also need to install the drivers in the VM. Oh and yes there is a full screen option but of the top of my head I cant remember without running through the other room and switching the computer on. I am sure google will be faster than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yambo View Post
    Well it seems I have successfully installed Virtualbox, installed windows XP in there and AutoCad 2002 LT on that. It operates with a considerably smaller screen but there may be a way to adjust that. I'll have a look see. It all works though, so thanks guys. I need to get it to recognise my printer so we're not 100% yet but hey, we're doing all right so far

    TurboCad is OK but draw one line on the page and another 5 or 6 appear! Not so sure I like that but I am used to AutoCad and new programs always take a bit of getting used to. If ACAD works OK though I'll probably not bother with TurboCad as ACAD does what I need.
    have you installed the virtualbox drivers into the guest OS?
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