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New Phone - 3g or 4g enabled ????

I currently have an iphone 3gs (32gb) and am considering changing it to something better and also with a bigger memory (my music collection is ...

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    I currently have an iphone 3gs (32gb) and am considering changing it to something better and also with a bigger memory (my music collection is ripped in apple lossless), i have been thinking of an iphone 4s (64gb) but am i making a mistake given i will never be able to go onto 4g with this phone, the 5s 64gb is around 700 new (i buy my phones outright).... so should i just look at something like the Sony Xperia Z Mini (when it comes out) or the Samsung S4 etc, this will then allow me to go 4g in the future

    Oh sound quality via headphones is very important and i have heard the S4 is dire in that dept.

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    Default Re: New Phone - 3g or 4g enabled ????

    in short....stick with 3g if you're not a data hog.

    reason: battery life.
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    Default Re: New Phone - 3g or 4g enabled ????

    HSDPA is plenty good enough for streaming vids & music for me so I'll not be looking at 4G any time soon.
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    Mine's 4G and it's fine. Depends if you have coverage though, but if you don't, it flips to 3G anyway so makes no difference really.
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    To be honest, I'd concentrate on modernising how you store your music on your phone. Storing music at Lossless quality (which equates to around 700-800kbps) and needing a 64Gb phone seems inefficient. For example, why not compress to 256 when you sync? Even if you can honestly tell the difference via headphones sat on a bus, is it really worth the extra cash in storage? If you're syncing with iTunes then you can just choose this in the prefs.

    Taking it further, why store all the music you want at all times on the device? Can't you pick and choose a subset that you want for a while? I have my music at 256kbps and currently have over 80 on my 16Gb phone which is fine. And I can delete/add new albums in a few seconds when in wi-fi range anyway, or maybe a few minutes over 3G.

    For example, if staying with iPhones, you'd save an awful lot of money by subscribing to iTunes Match for 22 quid a year and then downloading the albums you want as you need them and just keeping 20 or 30 at a time on the phone. Or you could use one of the streaming services.. or a combination of both. I currently use Bloom.fm which has a great advantage (to me) over Spotify/Deezer/Rdio in that it shows your music stored on the phone from either source - so I have music downloaded via Bloom but also via iTunes Match (or iTunes) and the Bloom app just shows them all together so you don't have to look in two different apps to find your music.
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    Because - the day the cloud goes BOOM is the day i lose all my music. It will happen man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Londongal76 View Post
    Because - the day the cloud goes BOOM is the day i lose all my music. It will happen man.
    Well, I'm pretty sure they'd stop charging when that happens.
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    Am I the only one that actually still buys cd's, and rips's them through an optical drive (remember them)?

    Tut, cloud indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_Two View Post
    Am I the only one that actually still buys cd's, and rips's them through an optical drive (remember them)?

    Tut, cloud indeed.
    nope. I do. I use the cloud, but it's my own. its a nimbus

    regards the OP, i have a 4g phone, its alright but i would be happy on a 3g one. unless you use huge amounts of data on the go, its an unnecessary addition
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    Thanks for the info, i still buy CD's and like this way of getting my music.... i have never actually downloaded any music !!! I have a very expensive set of headphones and am considering buying a headphone amp as well, i want music in the highest quality possible and having it in a ' cloud ' just does not sit right with me.... i need to look into the S4's DAC a bit more carefully and find out if its as bad as some are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_Two View Post
    Am I the only one that actually still buys cd's, and rips's them through an optical drive (remember them)?

    Tut, cloud indeed.
    Yeah I used to - and still have all the CDs. And have them all ripped onto the Mac. But then also have them copied onto the cloud. No reason not to and just means I have everything available all the time.

    I don't buy CDs any more though, just no point. I used to buy 4 or 5 a month at say, 40. Now it costs me a fiver a month instead. What's not to like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    Thanks for the info, i still buy CD's and like this way of getting my music.... i have never actually downloaded any music !!! I have a very expensive set of headphones and am considering buying a headphone amp as well, i want music in the highest quality possible and having it in a ' cloud ' just does not sit right with me.... i need to look into the S4's DAC a bit more carefully and find out if its as bad as some are saying.
    Yes, but you seem to be missing some of the points. It's not really about where you get your music from.

    Firstly, if you have a large collection of music and want to listen at the best quality through headphone amps and the like, why is your primary source a phone? I don't get it. Do you not own a CD player or a computer? Surely all your music is ripped onto the computer? The phone should be your portable option - stick on some stuff you want to listen to and then avoid spending large amounts of money buying unnecessary mobile storage.

    Secondly, the point about iTunes Match (or similar) is again nothing to with buying music online... it's about copying what you already own on CD into the cloud so you can just access it from anywhere. Then, when you want to listen to an album on your phone you make it appear on there.

    And thirdly, you're making the classic mistake of equating 'cloud' with 'low quality'. Used to be the same with people assuming that an iPod or phone or whatever meant 'low quality MP3' just because that's what they used and not aware that they could be using lossless or full AIFF instead. It's not quite the same with streaming services of course because you are using whatever they provide rather than you deciding, but still... things move forward. My current streaming service is at 320kbps. If you can tell the difference between that and Apple Lossless from a phone, via non-massive headphones while out and about then fine.. but you'd be in a miniscule minority. And compromise or not, you have to factor in the massive convenience and cheapness
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    I did think that ' cloud ' meant low quality (ie crappy MP3). I don't listen to my music when out and about (aka like the majority who bump into street furniture and walk in front of traffic !), i listen to my music at night (in my comfy bed) and drift away into never never land..... i do have some ' HUGE ' headphones (Sennheiser HD-700), They are mid priced and sound very good, i find the sound very good without a headphone amp but am considering one just to see if i can get better. I have compared the SQ on my phone directly with a CD playing in my Sony ES CD player.... and its very very close, which given its a phone is good enough for me, it suits my listening at night to have that kind of portability. The DAC's in some of the phones are getting very good (but some are not, ie the S4).
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