m.a.g membership?

[Slowth]

I think the accidents stats were covered in another thread recently, overly represented in the KSIs IIRC.

I think it's sportsbikes that are overly represented, rather than bikes with "high" bhp, but I take your point.

[Horse]

I don't see many other types up here, excepting squadrons of overly lit up GSs on their way to annex Poland.

I think the accidents stats were covered in another thread recently, overly represented in the KSIs IIRC.

See ^there
http://www.therevcounter.co.uk/uk-moto...ml#post1656948

[Milky82]

Might have been a bit stinky

No maybe about it chap

[crust]

No maybe about it chap

Or is it? Yes, more sportsbikes have accidents, however what proportion of bikes on the road are sportsbikes? Anyone broken the accident stats down as a percentage of type used?

Pretty soon round my way people will be saying the same thing about BMW GS riders because thats all you see round here.

[Julian_Boolean]

You're flogging a dead horse here.
Most people riding bikes now don't go back far enough to remember the bad old days when 100bhp limits were being imposed.
(The French went belly up on that one, but we told them where to shove it, and won).
A lot of people riding their mega powered hyper bikes now, have absolutely no idea of the fight that went on back in the early
90's that secured the freedom they now enjoy.
The irony is that these same people point, laugh and mock the very pressure groups that struggled and fought relentlessly to secure the freedom to ride the bikes they are now able to enjoy unhindered.
I hate to say this, but I think a good old fashioned piece of restrictive legislation is probably what we need, to remind us of how vulnerable we really are.
And when that happens what do we do.
Come on to a public forum and whinge about it ?
Write to our MP's ?
The fact is that like them or not, the BMF and Mag are all we have.
For the price of a tank of fuel you could help ensure our freedoms, but I doubt most here would bother.
They'll moan and whinge on public forums and down the pub about how hard done by we are, when they themselves have not lifted a finger to help in the fight.
Apathy is the greatest weapon against freedom.

I remember the threatened power restrictions in the 80s, I think the only people threatening them in the UK was MCN, I also remember leg protectors and a load of other threatened legislation, surely it would be fairly easy for MAG and the BMF to publish exactly what they did to prevent these laws coming into effect.

[simplesimon]

I remember the threatened power restrictions in the 80s, I think the only people threatening them in the UK was MCN, .

It was the early 90's actually, and they were far from mere threats.
Your recollection of the facts seems to overlook the fact that France did actually get the 100bhp limit imposed.

I also remember leg protectors and a load of other threatened legislation, surely it would be fairly easy for MAG and the BMF to publish exactly what they did to prevent these laws coming into effect.

Go to the BMF or MAG website if you're interested.
Fact is that while you were riding around oblivious to it all and blaming MCN, there were people out in force opposing Bangemanns proposed legislation and I remember a the time, the then minister of transport complimenting the Motorcycling lobby groups for their effective arguments.

What they did was put together document after document that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no connection between a bikes power output and the number of bike related collissions.

The end result was that the proposals were thrown out, by us at least.

Putting together these arguments and strategies takes time and money, which is why I find it hard to understand why anyone would begrudge paying the price of a tank of fuel to help in the fight.

And so now we are faced with the very real prospect of forced dayglo wearing, outlawing of aftermarket parts for bikes to name but two outrageously idiotic pieces of proposed legislation but don't worry, the fight will go on even with people like you preferring to sit on your arse and do nothing.

[burty]

And so now we are faced with the very real prospect of forced dayglo wearing, outlawing of aftermarket parts for bikes to name but two outrageously idiotic pieces of proposed legislation but don't worry, the fight will go on even with people like you preferring to sit on your arse and do nothing.

Aside from the noise from MAG. There's not overwhelming evidence that any of these proposals are a very real prospect in the UK.

[simplesimon]

Aside from the noise from MAG. There's not overwhelming evidence that any of these proposals are a very real prospect in the UK.

So are you saying there's no chance it'll happen here ?

[Crass]

Aside from the noise from MAG. There's not overwhelming evidence that any of these proposals are a very real prospect in the UK.

Aw FFS Burty, we've been rid of the resident troll / bullshitter SS for weeks now. He's only just resurfaced in the small hours of this morning and already he's back on prime form wading in and trying to whip up an argument. Don't give him the oxygen of attention and he'll fuck off again.

[simplesimon]

Aw FFS Burty, we've been rid of the resident troll / bullshitter SS for weeks now. He's only just resurfaced in the small hours of this morning and already he's back on prime form wading in and trying to whip up an argument. Don't give him the oxygen of attention and he'll fuck off again.

I'm sure people are able to make their own decisions.
Do you really think they need your guidance.
No, they don't,
Funny how, when you're completely out of your depth in the conversation, you resort to abuse.
Doesn't fool me mate..
Go on prove me wrong.
Engage in the discussion and prove me wrong.
NAH
Didn't think so

[Gedge]

I'm sure people are able to make their own decisions.
Do you really think they need your guidance.
No, they don't,
Funny how, when you're completely out of your depth in the conversation, you resort to abuse.
Doesn't fool me mate..
Go on prove me wrong.
Engage in the discussion and prove me wrong.
NAH
Didn't think so

You will need to find a new way of starting your trolling if you think its going to succeed this time..using the same old tired routine just shows you up for the inadequate weirdo that you must be to keep joining forums and spouting the same old shit.............

[God]

Back on track: This is the latest from MAG on Facebook:

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MAG's National Committee has voted for another day of action to remind those MEPs who aren't bothering to engage, that Riders Are Voters and that politicians are elected to represent our will, and should not impose theirs upon us.

- There is no evidence to support plans to curtail modifications
- We want to retain the right to modify our bikes
- We want the right to choose ABS
- And while not part of this Type Approval Regulation, the EU Parliament has written to the EU Commission to ask that they propose 'warning jackets' for all.
- Again there is no definitive evidence for compulsory Hi-viz clothing, but there is plenty of evidence that teaching other road users to look can reduce casualties.
- We want the right to choose what we wear, hi-viz or not.

Our day of action will be June 24th 2012 and I hope you'll join one of our rides. This time there will be 12 massive demos, one in each of the 12 EU Parliamentary constituencies.

Start time will be 13.00hours, just like September 25th was last year.

The actual start points are being finalised and we'll let you know as soon as they are, but the sheer size of the expected turnout means that we are in the process of securing suitable sites and are in discussion with Highways Authorities and Police forces.

New Facebook page will go live with all details as we can't change the name of this one.
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[Horse]

How do mag know all the MEPs will be on the roads right then to see the demo?

[Claude]

How will MAG ENSURE that the message they are trying to convey is done in the way they want it?

Cos clearly the Beardey weirdies didn't have the same intention.

[Horse]

How will MAG ENSURE that the message they are trying to convey is done in the way they want it?

Cos clearly the Beardey weirdies didn't have the same intention.

Do you mean BMF members?