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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    The 750 Bonnie was never a great bike. It was only built for the US market and Triumph had to downtune it to stop it from falling apart. The 650 was the one to have.
    Wasn't it more the case, TC, that part of the reason they brought out the 750 (apart from demand from the US market) was precisely that there's been a lot of warranty claims on the 650, and they wanted to be able to down-tune with without losing performance, hence the capacity hike?

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    Gawd knows! Though the block of records I did dated back to the 1950s and covered a combination of models - seems like Norton took out blocks of serial numbers and manufactured bikes in big batches.

    It was interesting seeing the Manx Nortons which were made and either went to dealers or the factory race team.
    IIRC a heck of a lot of Manxs were bought by the Cooper racing guys - who stripped out and used the engines - leaving a lot of Featherbeds without motors - and partially fed the Triton craze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    IIRC a heck of a lot of Manxs were bought by the Cooper racing guys - who stripped out and used the engines - leaving a lot of Featherbeds without motors - and partially fed the Triton craze?
    That rings a bell, I believe as a result of Norton refusing to sell the engines separately.

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    That rings a bell, I believe as a result of Norton refusing to sell the engines separately.
    Yeah, exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto748 View Post
    Wasn't it more the case, TC, that part of the reason they brought out the 750 (apart from demand from the US market) was precisely that there's been a lot of warranty claims on the 650, and they wanted to be able to down-tune with without losing performance, hence the capacity hike?

    I'm only quoting other people's wisdom, but I thought their last big warranty scare was the fitting of E3134 profile exhaust cams in the late sixties, leading to cam and follower wear. That was sorted with nitrided cams a few years before the 750 came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto748 View Post
    Wasn't it more the case, TC, that part of the reason they brought out the 750 (apart from demand from the US market) was precisely that there's been a lot of warranty claims on the 650, and they wanted to be able to down-tune with without losing performance, hence the capacity hike?
    As I understood it the US market was the only reason for the 750. However my info is just from what I heard/read somewhere years ago and stored away in a dusty corner of my brain, so maybe there was more to it, dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto748 View Post
    Wasn't it more the case, TC, that part of the reason they brought out the 750 (apart from demand from the US market) was precisely that there's been a lot of warranty claims on the 650, and they wanted to be able to down-tune with without losing performance, hence the capacity hike?
    Thinking about it, wasn't that why they took the Norton Commando out from 750 to 828cc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ink ink View Post
    Thinking about it, wasn't that why they took the Norton Commando out from 750 to 828cc?
    Yep. When Norton and BSA-Triumph merged into NVT they inherited a range including the Commando, Trident and Rocket 3. They decided to promote the Commando as a big tourer and hogged it out to 828, dropped the Rocket 3 and promoted the Trident as the sports bike of the group due to its Daytona successes. It was perhaps an odd decision given the success of the JPN team in racing and the fact that he Trident was the heaviest bike of the lot.

    Shame they went bust before they made any production Challenges, I saw some of those on track and they were awesome. Norman White still has some engines and complete bikes in his workshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    Shame they went bust before they made any production Challenges, I saw some of those on track and they were awesome. Norman White still has some engines and complete bikes in his workshop.
    The Cosworth JAA/JAB engine? I bought the Voyager from the designer of that - Keith was not very complementary about the management of NVT!

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    TC

    Is norman still at thruxton?

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    Boing - just to encourage more discussion - I'm currently looking into this a bit more seriously now.

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    Just go for it for a week or two..... You'll need to get some 'bedding in' type miles under your belt.



    If you're thinking of using a particular AJS I might just have a sidecar and fitting kit for you

    Chunky old singles will go on for ever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by herriwullie View Post
    Just go for it for a week or two..... You'll need to get some 'bedding in' type miles under your belt.



    If you're thinking of using a particular AJS I might just have a sidecar and fitting kit for you

    Chunky old singles will go on for ever....
    I haven't got the money yet, let alone a bike in need of fettling.

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    I was offered first refusal on a commando this weekend.

    Typically it came up at atime when I had no money

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    I haven't got the money yet, let alone a bike in need of fettling.
    Pull a couple of the plug leads off the Mirth and you'll get that classic spluttery feel at little cost

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