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    Default Supermotos circa 2000

    Hi, looking for my first bike at the moment, only problem is I don't have a job so it is more or less a pipe dream. When I get a job (or more likely, JSA) I am looking for a supermoto for around 1000.

    So far I have narrowed it down to the following:

    KTM 640 LC4, I have seen these going cheap

    Husqvarna 610sm

    CCM 604/644



    I have ruled out the following:

    Suzuki DRZ because it is only a 400cc thus underpowered, but they have the supermoto look down to a tee, it's a shame they didn't make it a 500cc

    ccm r30 because it is ugly

    Honda FMX because it doesn't have the proper supermoto looks, it looks like a "soft" supermoto so to speak

    MZ Baghira for the same reasons as the FMX

    My reasons for wanting a supermoto are because I want to practice stunts and have something that can do light off roading but has decent road handling rather than what I imagine skinny knobblies to have. Eventually I want to get a road bike as well as an SM. I have noticed a lot of supermotos seem to be way more expensive than the equivalent street bike. For instance I can find loads of middleweight road bikes for around 1000 but supermotos at that price seem to be quite rare which is strange because supermotos are a lot less refined and more simply engineered than road bikes.
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    Default Re: Supermotos circa 1000

    If it's your first bike, power won't matter. The DRZ has enough, and is way more reliable and maintenance friendly than most others. Don't rule it out because it's "just" a 400. Great wee bikes.

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    Default Re: Supermotos circa 1000

    Quote Originally Posted by flynn View Post
    Hi, looking for my first bike at the moment, only problem is I don't have a job so it is more or less a pipe dream. When I get a job (or more likely, JSA) I am looking for a supermoto for around 1000.

    So far I have narrowed it down to the following:

    KTM 640 LC4, I have seen these going cheap Don't buy a cheap LC4 unless you ant to spend as much again repairing it

    Husqvarna 610sm one's in your price bracket will be nackered

    CCM 604/644



    I have ruled out the following:

    Suzuki DRZ because it is only a 400cc thus underpowered, but they have the supermoto look down to a tee, it's a shame they didn't make it a 500cc. Don't knock what you haven't tried, I had one as first SM and really rate them

    ccm r30 because it is ugly

    Honda FMX because it doesn't have the proper supermoto looks, it looks like a "soft" supermoto so to speak

    MZ Baghira for the same reasons as the FMX

    My reasons for wanting a supermoto are because I want to practice stunts and have something that can do light off roading but has decent road handling rather than what I imagine skinny knobblies to have. Eventually I want to get a road bike as well as an SM. I have noticed a lot of supermotos seem to be way more expensive than the equivalent street bike. For instance I can find loads of middleweight road bikes for around 1000 but supermotos at that price seem to be quite rare which is strange because supermotos are a lot less refined and more simply engineered than road bikes.
    TBH pal you need to get a job before worrying about which bike to buy and I think you won't get a decent or reliable SM for 1000. I'd set a minimum budget of 2500.

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    A KTM or a Husky for a bag of sand will be a ticking time bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    A KTM or a Husky for a bag of sand will be a ticking time bomb.

    I had a 2001 LC4 and it is probably one of, if not the worse bike I've ever owned. Dog of a thing. Out of your list i#d go for a DRZ. Its avery capable bike and relaible too. Don't underestimate it.

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    Having owned a DRZ and a Husky SM510R from New you would be nuts not to go for the DRZ as your first. You will get an OK DRZ for a grand, you will get a bag of Shit 610 for the same money.

    Have a look at the Thumpertalk site and go to the DRZ section. A huge amount of help and info on there.

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    I've owned a DRZ and own a Husky 610, the 610 is more fun but requires more maintenance, is noisy and uncomfortable, buy a Husky if you enjoy major engine rebuilds and short manic rides, the DRZ if you need transport, Husky is for sale for around a grand, but it is getting a bit clattery.

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    For a grand, any big off roady type single which isn't too fucked. Something like an old Honda Dominator or SLR650. As said previously, any 'proper' supermoto for a grand will be a heap of trouble.

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    Looks like I will reconsider a DRZ perhaps. Saw the endure version up for a bag of sand a couple months back, it did look good. It could be converted quite easily, just wheels forks and brakes ain't it? Really wish I had a job because I really like the look of the KTM 660 but that might have to wait due to the price of the things. I am 6 foot and 13 stone so I don't know how the DRZ will feel power wise but hopefully it won't be too boring. I know there are some mods you can do for the DRZ as well but I think they only gain 5 or 6 hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn View Post
    Looks like I will reconsider a DRZ perhaps. Saw the endure version up for a bag of sand a couple months back, it did look good. It could be converted quite easily, just wheels forks and brakes ain't it? Really wish I had a job because I really like the look of the KTM 660 but that might have to wait due to the price of the things. I am 6 foot and 13 stone so I don't know how the DRZ will feel power wise but hopefully it won't be too boring. I know there are some mods you can do for the DRZ as well but I think they only gain 5 or 6 hp.
    Check out thumpertalk. Mods make quite a bit of power depending what you do and how much you want to throw at it.

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    I have found a gig and will be looking to get a supermoto in the next couple of months. If something like this is up for sale at the time then I am seriously tempted. Is there anything wrong with the 'bergs? It looks way more exciting than a DRZ. They are rarer as well, would parts be a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn View Post
    I have found a gig and will be looking to get a supermoto in the next couple of months. If something like this is up for sale at the time then I am seriously tempted. Is there anything wrong with the 'bergs? It looks way more exciting than a DRZ. They are rarer as well, would parts be a problem?
    Service intervals will be measured in hours rather than miles. If you want a fun toy for sunny days, why not?

    If you plan to use it as a commuter for work, you'll be rebuilding it every couple of weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    Service intervals will be measured in hours rather than miles. If you want a fun toy for sunny days, why not?

    If you plan to use it as a commuter for work, you'll be rebuilding it every couple of weeks!
    Can't afford a toy at the moment, I will be using the bike as my only transport. Looks like back to the DRZ again! I like the look of a KTM 660. Looking on Google though it looks as if some year models are said to be reliable and some aren't, not to mention the bare basics nature of the thing, i.e., kick start only. I can see why the DRZs are popular, they offer the supermoto experience without having to seek out the one obscure model a manufacturer makes that offers something reasonable for the road. Just to add, with this gig I have found I will be looking more in the 1500-2k range rather than 1k.

    It looks like the KTM 625 SMC might be the ideal bike I am looking for:

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-r.../625-smc/2003/

    However, it will be a case of finding one at a reasonable price. The specialist websites that have off road bikes like enduronews.com are always overpriced, eBay and gumtree are the only websites where I have ever seen bikes for reasonable prices.

    Edit: found 2 on gumtree.com

    https://www.gumtree.com/p/ktm-motorb...oto/1134491957

    https://www.gumtree.com/p/ktm-motorb...004/1133374740

    Both expensive even on there. Edit: Just noticed the first advert says it only has a kick start Yet the article on MCN says the 625 has an electric start :confused: The second advert bloke wants 2800 for something without an MOT I can suddenly see why most people give up hunting for something different and go with a DRZ.

    Edit: Perhaps the 640 is the one to go for as they are the most popular and common place by far and also come with an electric start. From what I have gathered via Google research even before joining here the 640 is as close to the DRZ in terms of maintenance and reliability as your gonna get.
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    Buy the DRZ, ride it on your commute. Save up and then buy a Husky, Berg, KTM. I commuted on a Husky because I could afford to take the time off for servicing and pay for it. If you dont have that luxury then you are mad to try.

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    I'll happily sell you my Husky for a grand, it's a bit clattery but will probably last another 10,000 miles

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