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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Been noticing lately some minor fuelling issues at times with it feeling a bit flat at times

    So I've done a few things

    KTM 15 minute reset
    Kev's O2 controller bought

    I then spent some time cleaning as it is very dusty out there. Nothing major, just some bodywork off, exhaust off etc. But it looks half respectable now


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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Who's Kev and what is his o2 controller all about?

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taipan View Post
    Who's Kev and what is his o2 controller all about?
    It's about a railway in Wales

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    what's the KTM 15 min reset?

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPygmy View Post
    what's the KTM 15 min reset?
    One of the many bodges needed to make it run proper, innit?

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    OK, so the 15 minute rest is where you fire up the bike on paddock stands/vertically and leave it running without touching the throttle for 15 mins. No less, no more than 15:30. Don't ask me how important the exact timing is, but these days it's not hard to be exact. The theory is that the ECU/SAS/electronics learn the ambient temperature, the air density and a load of other things that then helps it with any running issues. It's unknown truthfully how this all actually works, but the process is defined in the KTM manuals and many people have had their bikes running better after performing it. It's often done at the start of spring by people after being laid up.
    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=ktm+15+minute+reset

    Kevs O2 sensor, well that's a little more complex, but KTM690's and XT660X's for example run very lean in the closed loop, that's below 3500rpm. This can't be tuned out by a power commander etc as they don't configure closed loop fuelling, so Kevs jobbie plugs into the loom at the sensor from the exhaust/ECU and fixes the issues within the closed loop.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1321740559...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    There's more details in there.

    I'd just like it to run a bit better at certain times, so it was a reasonable cost expense to try. Rather than a PC5 and re-map which is getting very expensive.

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Been fannying about and swapped fuelling modes lately. Today was mode 3, Standard. Much prefer this one. Bike just fuels really nicely with it, although still a bit of a flat spot at 5,000rpm. But really enjoyed it.

    Also removed the screen at the weekend, i just can't face it... every time i look at the bike with the screen i want to set it on fire ! I'll keep it for trackdays, but it's being binned for every day use that's for sure.

    Got a lovely part worn Supercorsa front tyre coming in the post from Phlik, top man.... my front is OK, but running a little square, so will get a nicer profile front on there and hopefully also find a nice 160 rear to go on too in a couple of weeks.

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    I set mine to 2 the other day. I did this for a while last year and didn't notice a huge difference, until I set it back to 3 when it felt like it had lost some responsiveness so I was having the twist the throttle more/harder for the same effect. However this time I changed it just before coming into work and for traffic etc it felt a bit rubbish so after going to/from work and picking holes in it I set it back to 3. I think 2 would be good for a fast blast but just doesn't feel as nice in traffic.

    I'm liking my screen. Not a huge difference but takes just enough off that it makes it far more comfy at speed. It does look a bit pony though.

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    O2 controller came in the post today, so it's a quick 5 mins job and it's done. Ideally need to do a 15 minute reset in a little while and then will test it either today/tomorrow.

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Here's a bit of a weird one then guys.

    I fitted Kevs O2 controller and i get blink codes as per video.



    Now, unless i'm mistaken, that's 4 long and 5 short.

    Which gives the following.



    However on the test ride, i'm certain it feels better and smoother at the bottom end fuelling as it's supposed to.

    I'm pretty sure the FI light isn't 'normal' as when i previously had the O2 controller i deffo didn't get the FI light flashing.

    I then disconnect the Module and the FI errors go away, re-connect it, they come back, remove.... they go away. So there's no debate the module is causing the FI light....

    Over to you Kev

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    Connector was wrong, 2 pins in the wrong places.. Sorted now and the bike rides really nicely... much improved i have to say !

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeksy View Post
    Connector was wrong, 2 pins in the wrong places.. Sorted now and the bike rides really nicely... much improved i have to say !
    Must have been a bit of a "Phew!" moment. I'd have been cacking it that i'd screwed up the Fi or ECU...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taipan View Post
    Must have been a bit of a "Phew!" moment. I'd have been cacking it that i'd screwed up the Fi or ECU...
    As soon as i removed the module, it was all fine again, so i know it wasn't something catastrophic, he's sold dozens upon dozens of these, both for 690s, XT660s and loads of others like MT07s etc.. So i wasn't massively worried

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    Default Re: New bike day... "Do what the &^^&*& you like..." Oh... it's not the same ?

    ARRGGHHHHHHH !

    Over the last few months i've noticed at times when moving the bike about, fitting tank panels etc it can smell a bit 'fuelly' but never thought anything of it. Yesterday when fitting the O2 controller i had to move the tank and then this morning i noticed it REALLY smelt fuelly. So after a bit of investigation i noticed this.....

    The O-ring/gasket was clearly mullered from a previous life.


    As you can see, from the dirt around it, it's clearly been weeping/misting as it's attracted the dirt a lot...

    Spoke to the KTM shop who agreed it was the breather for the tank/filler cap.... He thought removing it shouldn't leak fuel everywhere.... Ooooops, how wrong was that... i had gallons upon gallons of the sodding stuff everywhere ! ARRRGGHHHHHH. I got the majority of it into the fuel can, but not all that's for sure.... Using a wonderful funnel and a big box to get the can into the right location didn't quite get it all... But it's done now and the tank drained...

    Removed the offending culprit... Grrrrrr that's proper proper mullered that !



    Got a new part on order from Austria, but that won't get ordered till Tues so won't be in stock until Thurs at the dealers ! I now have a tank on the floor next to the bike LOL.

    I guess it does mean i can clean that parts you'd never normally get to with the tank fitted !

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