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    Thanks guys, really useful thread! I like your fourm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlaB View Post
    Thanks guys, really useful thread! I like your fourm!
    What ya selling?

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    Six months and not a single toilet joke!

    What is this forum coming to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    I was trying to do that. The wheel wasn't so much digging in as shoving bars to full lock

    The paths were about 5' wide with rocks both sides. Did OK when we found some sand dunes to play.
    Think water-skiing. If your front wheel is light enough it'll skim over the ruts or sand. The back may fishtail a bit, but that's easily controllable. If your front wheel is heavy then it will track every irregularity.

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    Six months and not a single toilet joke!

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    Yeah it's shit innit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    Think water-skiing. If your front wheel is light enough it'll skim over the ruts or sand. The back may fishtail a bit, but that's easily controllable. If your front wheel is heavy then it will track every irregularity.
    I've learned the theory and tried to apply it. On the Honda CR230, in sand it feels like a chopper with long forks and the wheel 'falls over' for fun. On the KTM, it was much better and could ride through the sand much easier.

    But stuck on my mate's CR for a while till we get the house sorted and a garage built.

    Still having bags of fun though

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    I suspect a CRF230 is similar to the XR250 I had, the only way to make it nice in sand was to pin the throttle wide open and rest my bum on the rear mudguard, it was too short and the steering head too steep to be good in sand or ruts, DRZ on the other hand used to plough through sand like it could do it all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    I suspect a CRF230 is similar to the XR250 I had, the only way to make it nice in sand was to pin the throttle wide open and rest my bum on the rear mudguard, it was too short and the steering head too steep to be good in sand or ruts, DRZ on the other hand used to plough through sand like it could do it all day.
    Yeah I've done a few enduros on an XL250S and they were hard work. Aside from it having no ground clearance which meant in every rut the pegs were grounding out and forcing the gear level up, it was heavy and gutless so there was no way you could get the front light. I fell off so many times from cross rutting that I worked out the only way to do it was feet up and trickle through. Which went down really well in an enduro

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    There is no set rule you must stand up doing X but not Y.

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    The faster you go, the less it feels like sand at all. Deep ripples grab the wheel at lower speeds and make the bike unstable and go off in different directions. Worth noting you can really throw the bike down hard and gas it in the deep stuff. It takes a lot more power to get the bike turning on the throttle as they sink in and make their own berms, feels very counter-intuitive at first. Also you need to be revving the nuts off 250 four strokes, sand positively saps power.

    I stand up all the time if I'm trying to go fast, aside from some corners where you want to sit down over the front for more grip. Hit anything big when you're sat down at speed and you get pitched off the bike. Oh and as everyone else said, if in doubt, gas it out...

    I hit 90 odd in a deep sand wash on my XR a few weeks back....felt amazing! Off road riding is the nuts.

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    You know what they say:

    What do men do standing up, women do sitting down and dogs do on three legs?



    Shake hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jung View Post
    The faster you go, the less it feels like sand at all. Deep ripples grab the wheel at lower speeds and make the bike unstable and go off in different directions. Worth noting you can really throw the bike down hard and gas it in the deep stuff. It takes a lot more power to get the bike turning on the throttle as they sink in and make their own berms, feels very counter-intuitive at first. Also you need to be revving the nuts off 250 four strokes, sand positively saps power.

    I stand up all the time if I'm trying to go fast, aside from some corners where you want to sit down over the front for more grip. Hit anything big when you're sat down at speed and you get pitched off the bike. Oh and as everyone else said, if in doubt, gas it out...

    I hit 90 odd in a deep sand wash on my XR a few weeks back....felt amazing! Off road riding is the nuts.
    Thanks for that. Some of the narrow sandy paths are too tight to get any speed up and if you fall, you hit nasty rocks each side. But I am getting better at faster sandy paths.

    And I quickly stand up when I see anything a bit 'iffy'.

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    Bit of both but definitely a sitter where I can get away with it. A friend of mine used to race in the early 90s and told me how in training the coach used to make them run laps without sitting down. He now rides casually on the odd weekend and barely ever sits down. My legs would fall off lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRiz View Post
    Bit of both but definitely a sitter where I can get away with it. A friend of mine used to race in the early 90s and told me how in training the coach used to make them run laps without sitting down. He now rides casually on the odd weekend and barely ever sits down. My legs would fall off lol.
    I'm getting the hang of it now. Able to stand for a few seconds over rough stuff. But do quite well sat down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    I'm getting the hang of it now. Able to stand for a few seconds over rough stuff. But do quite well sat down
    The trick is to hover rather than stand. This saves my legs most of the time. My biggest issue with standing is not being able to use clutch, shift, and hold on just tight enough to not be ejected!

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