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    Quote Originally Posted by inewham View Post

    So given that it is difficult to prove "safe and neccessary" It is implied that it is do not enter except in an emergency
    Not necessarily. You can cross a solid white in an emergency.

    If if it meant emergency, then that’s what it would have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootabout View Post
    Not disputing any of that, but I see that as the "can see that it is safe" part of the equation. I was focusing on the meaning of "necessary". How would you define it?
    Well I wouldn't define progress as 'necessary'. Nice perhaps, but rarely a 'must-do' part of riding... outside the IAM / RoSPA anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillitt View Post
    Yes, but they should have gone left and turned round somewhere rather than cross the verboten section. If he cant ride there, she cant drive across it either.
    It's not 'verboten'... as long as it's an area bounded by broken lines... as has been covered in a number of posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inewham View Post
    Doesn't the long broken white line already indicate a hazard? It seems the broken white with diagonals does the same thing but then places the onus on the rider to prove it was "safe and necessary" which is almost certain to fail
    So given that it is difficult to prove "safe and neccessary" It is implied that it is do not enter except in an emergency

    So why have arrows implying its OK to enter now return to the left? Seemscontrary to the implication of the diagonals

    Its pedantry but it seems an overuse of signage and creates a precedent where if something goes wrong its almost certain to be your fault
    Didn't I explain all that a couple of posts back? The broken line surrounding the cross hatchings is the same long broken hazard line you find on mile after mile of road that you can cross "if safe and necessary".

    The implication is not that you mustn't cross except in an emergency but that you need a good explanation if you do and it goes wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inewham View Post
    So why have arrows implying its OK to enter now return to the left? Seems contrary to the implication of the diagonals

    They don't "imply it's OK" they imply you must as you're approaching what is effectively a double white line.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by inewham View Post
    So why have arrows implying its OK to enter now return to the left?
    Approved technique on very advanced tests is apparently to go for an overtake using that stretch so that your assessor won't have time and space to follow, or will have to cross the solid line (and probably buy the cakes at the debrief)

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