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    Drive Taking the van. Went through on the bike back in the mid 90's and never bought a vignette. Took my chance and got away with it but technology has moved on a tad. Ill sit down with Google and my sat nav to leave out toll and motorways and see what comes up.
    Sure, and they'll be looking out for foreigners in suspicious white vans

    I did it in a van: a full day from the French coast to the Alps stage. Nice drive. You could make your day up [timewise] there, and take the first three of your days at a more leisurely pace, taking more in. I know a wild-camp site just after that Alps stage, which is where you'd need to be on the 3rd night, up just beneath the southern end of the Jura, high in some vineyards with spectacular views. Its legal & free. The simple rule is its respected. Even camp fires are allowed. This would also give you much more time to navigate through the mountain stages.
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    ... I know a wild-camp site just after that Alps stage, which is where you'd need to be on the 3rd night, up just beneath the southern end of the Jura, high in some vineyards with spectacular views. Its legal & free. The simple rule is its respected. Even camp fires are allowed. This would also give you much more time to navigate through the mountain stages.
    A few pictures. If you want the locality I'll PM it over.












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    @tenbears
    I'd be interested in the address of the campsite.

    As an avid tourer and somebody who does it professionally I can only advise against a predetermined route. My motto operandi is: wake up, get some nosh, check the weather, try to focus on the street map, identify cool passes (if one doesn't know them yet), see where the day's journey could end, check booking.com, write a list for the tank rucksack and off I go by ten at the latest.

    The advantages of the above method? a) avoid bad weather b) ride where you fancy and see stuff others don't c) more of an adventure feel

    My two cents' worth

    Oh, and haven FUN!!!

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    North Italy the border of Austria. Any reason i cant get google maps to take me along the road between these two points (SS3

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/46...8409!3e0?hl=en

    Is that a pass that will be shut this time of year or something? I will be gong north to St Anton but not the road google says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1888 View Post
    North Italy the border of Austria. Any reason i cant get google maps to take me along the road between these two points (SS3

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/46...8409!3e0?hl=en

    Is that a pass that will be shut this time of year or something? I will be gong north to St Anton but not the road google says.

    Closed.

    The Stelvio Pass retains an importance for sport when it is open from May through November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    Closed.

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    Ah so it is that pass. Was not to sure as i could not mind the spelling I take it the road is OK for a large van as they must get delivery's up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1888 View Post
    Ah so it is that pass. Was not to sure as i could not mind the spelling I take it the road is OK for a large van as they must get delivery's up there.
    Bugger. Even my sat nav knows its shut.

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    Car Vignette is around €9,- for 10 days. Penalty for getting caught around €120,-

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    Stelvio will not open until the end of May at the earliest, often up to two weeks later.

    Ofen Paß is open all year, except during a Blizzard.

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    That's a tunnel between Svizzer National Park and Lake Livigno. One way at a time, controlled by traffic lights with a 20 - 30 minute turn around. Oh, and a Toll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali View Post
    That's a tunnel between Svizzer National Park and Lake Livigno. One way at a time, controlled by traffic lights with a 20 - 30 minute turn around. Oh, and a Toll.
    Forget that route. Google just added that is as the pass is shut. I want the SS38. I dont mind paying my tolls but i thought the Vignette was just for motorways. I will need the Vignette for Switzerland, Italy and if there is one now Austria. Do i save anything buying in advance online and I am in a van/camper not car.

    Stelvio pass will be end of September.

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    There is no Vignette for Italy and the Austrian one is indeed for motorways only as indeed is the Swiss one.

    There are, however, one off charges for "special" roads such as the Stelvio (€10), Felberntauern (€10), Nockalm (€10) or Großglockner (€25).

    For what it's worth, the Umbrail pass is also fantastic and bingo, you're in Switzerland.
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    I did the Stelvio in 2015 and never got charged, is it a new thing?

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    Dito, last time it was free but I read about it. Haven't seen it myself, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingo View Post
    There is no Vignette for Italy
    You sure? Plot a route along the A4 to Venice and Google says this is a toll road.

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