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    Default Re: Non deletable Brexit / UK Constitution / Politics thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonercat View Post
    May will give the voters what they want, controls on immigration. That's not the same as curbing immigration though, and by the time we extract ourselves from the EU fully it will be someone else's problem.
    She managed that so well when she was in charge of the border agency


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    Default Re: Non deletable Brexit / UK Constitution / Politics thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaMan View Post
    Everything after 'so' is just made up - there's no deductive logic and no evidence for it.

    I'm ok with people having diffferent opinions.

    But becoming embitttered over things you've freely conjectured seems somewhat unnecessary?



    - why don't we just wait and see what may happen with immigration control?

    Do you think Australia, Canada, the US and so on "let in" whoever they'd have let in anyway?

    I'd rather not wait and see about anything. I'd like to know what is being planned so would a whole load of industries. For example the fisheries policy, the replacement for the common agricultural policy, the regulation of medicines etc. etc.
    All this and loads more is currently regulated by the EU and we have to put bureaucratic mechanisms and laws in to replace this. None of this is subject to the 'embargo' on new trade agreements yet there is no public discussion on what is going to happen. I suspect this is because the government is completely overwhelmed by the tasks it is facing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reburner View Post
    I'd rather not wait and see about anything. I'd like to know what is being planned so would a whole load of industries. For example the fisheries policy, the replacement for the common agricultural policy, the regulation of medicines etc. etc.
    All this and loads more is currently regulated by the EU and we have to put bureaucratic mechanisms and laws in to replace this. None of this is subject to the 'embargo' on new trade agreements yet there is no public discussion on what is going to happen. I suspect this is because the government is completely overwhelmed by the tasks it is facing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobzilla View Post
    You missed the investment bit though.

    Also, its up because of 'net trade', which you might have seen bounce around quite a bit in previous quarters.
    No, I didn't miss it, I simply responded to the overall gist of her post.

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    Default Re: Non deletable Brexit / UK Constitution / Politics thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaMan View Post

    Do you think Australia, Canada, the US and so on "let in" whoever they'd have let in anyway?
    Interesting that you chose three federal examples, which seems to be anathema in a European context. Do you think they "let in" citizens of other states in their countries anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonercat View Post
    Excellent. We'll need even more immigrants the way the economy is growing.
    How about we work out how to build enough houses* for the people who already live here?

    *and hospitals, roads, railways, old people's homes, etc, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    How about we work out how to build enough houses* for the people who already live here?

    *and hospitals, roads, railways, old people's homes, etc, etc
    Who's going to do that then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowsider View Post
    Interesting that you chose three federal examples, which seems to be anathema in a European context. Do you think they "let in" citizens of other states in their countries anyway?
    They are all federations, but tightly knit ones. An Aussie is an Aussie, whether he lives in Darwin or Sydney. Same in the USA and Canada. Their states/provinces are different, but the underlying culture is very very similar.

    That just isn't true in Europe. It might be one day, but (IMO) it will take hundreds of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reburner View Post
    Who's going to do that then?
    People, those bipeds what sit around on their ass all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    People, those bipeds what sit around on their ass all day.
    Sounds like an efficient workforce, who in their right mind wouldn't want to employ them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonercat View Post
    Sounds like an efficient workforce, who in their right mind wouldn't want to employ them?
    Bovis don't seem too fussed who they employ, or from where. You just have to be incompetent and cheap. Does it raise any questions regarding the compromises made by relying on immediate imported labour to sidestep training up local demographic (like many in the NHS) ? who knows, who cares, caveat emptor Rodney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reburner View Post
    Who's going to do that then?
    Why , all of the apprentices that have been trained in the last 20 years instead of employing cheap labour from abroad , thats who.

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    Default Re: Non deletable Brexit / UK Constitution / Politics thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by melons View Post
    Bovis don't seem too fussed who they employ, or from where. You just have to be incompetent and cheap. Does it raise any questions regarding the compromises made by relying on immediate imported labour to sidestep training up local demographic (like many in the NHS) ? who knows, who cares, caveat emptor Rodney

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...ly-built-homes
    Not just Bovis, not just imported labour. Housebuilding is the last refuge of the incompetent 'tradesman'.

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    Default Re: Non deletable Brexit / UK Constitution / Politics thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by slowsider View Post
    Interesting that you chose three federal examples, which seems to be anathema in a European context. Do you think they "let in" citizens of other states in their countries anyway?
    I don't know what you mean.


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