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    It's obvious that other people are the problem, ffs!
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    Having done some work with oil companies I can confirm that they have REALLY stringent safety rules - due to the fact that the stuff they make/sell is VERY dangerous!! Many are imposed on them externally but they also have rules which are meant to prevent employees and customers and bystanders being injured (partly because they don't want to injure people and partly because they don't want the PR/Claims). If there is a rule there it's there for a reason.

    The lady in question had probably had her training recently and was applying what she had been taught. Good for her - it's for your own protection and safety you numpty. You might have spent 17 filling your bike when sitting on it and you've been lucky. All you need is a spark and you won't have any chance of moving away from the fireball. Also you are potentially putting the staff and other customers/bystanders at risk.

    Do grow up!

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    Default Re: Complaint to Shell - refused petrol

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    He left, to get petrol elsewhere.

    Pexit means.... you know the rest.

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    Is that two per transaction, Could you not drive out and back in to fill another two?
    When I raced I'd need 2 x 20 litre jerry cans of fuel, one of cheap stuff for the generator and one of the highest octane for the race bike. So I'd fill one, drive round the block, then fill the other at a different pump. Pay at pump of course. They knew what I was doing but I stuck to the rules so it was all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gem View Post
    Having done some work with oil companies I can confirm that they have REALLY stringent safety rules - due to the fact that the stuff they make/sell is VERY dangerous!! Many are imposed on them externally but they also have rules which are meant to prevent employees and customers and bystanders being injured (partly because they don't want to injure people and partly because they don't want the PR/Claims). If there is a rule there it's there for a reason.

    The lady in question had probably had her training recently and was applying what she had been taught. Good for her - it's for your own protection and safety you numpty. You might have spent 17 filling your bike when sitting on it and you've been lucky. All you need is a spark and you won't have any chance of moving away from the fireball. Also you are potentially putting the staff and other customers/bystanders at risk.

    Do grow up!
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    I caught fire in a petrol station once. It was mildly stimulating for a minute or so.

    I suspect if you're interested you can find a post of my experience by using the search function.

    My thoughts - petrol is nasty 'orrible stuff, I quite like to have the opportunity to bravely run away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gem View Post
    The lady in question had probably had her training recently and was applying what she had been taught.
    from:
    https://www.energyinst.org/documents/1317
    which is referred to by HSE (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosi...tions-2014.pdf)

    Safe dispensing of petrol

    d. motor cyclists and their passengers should dismount from their machines

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    Quote Originally Posted by irie View Post
    When I raced I'd need 2 x 20 litre jerry cans of fuel, one of cheap stuff for the generator and one of the highest octane for the race bike. So I'd fill one, drive round the block, then fill the other at a different pump. Pay at pump of course. They knew what I was doing but I stuck to the rules so it was all good.
    But not to the law.
    What size containers can I use? The new Regulations state that petrol can be stored in the following containers:
     plastic containers up to 10 litres (previous regulations restricted this to 5 litres)
     metal containers up to 20 litres (previous regulations restricted this to 10 litres)

    How much petrol can I store on a vehicle? You can store up to 30 litres of petrol in a maximum of two suitable portable petrol containers in a vehicle (including boats and aircraft). This type of storage counts towards the total storage at non-workplace premises.

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    TBF, there is more chance of spillage if your bike is on a side stand, plus you can't get enough petrol in. My Husqvarna was suicidal on its side stand, you only had to look at it wrong and would fold graciously up and the bike would keel over, not so good when filling it up. Only got shouted at once, went inside, explained the situation and they then let me carry on.

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    I have no issue with someone wishing to express a personal preference, in this case, sitting on a bike while filling it with petrol. Seems rather idiotic to me since you're gonna have to get off to pay anyway and an incredibly dangerous practice should petrol spill over onto a hot engine. But hey, maybe the OP is going for a Darwin award. I have no problem with that either.

    On the other hand, I do have a problem with people who set themselves up as some sort of spokesperson especially for my chosen lifestyle. The problem is, there are issues regarding motorcycles and petrol stations; the obvious one being the (thankfully rare) requirement to take off one's helmet. I never have and never will. If there's a sign in place, I will move on and shop elsewhere. If there is no sign and I a not served, I carefully place the fuel filler on the ground and go buy petrol elsewhere.

    Woe betides anyone who would refuse to accept payment if I decline a request to undress for them. I have offered payment, if the vendor refuses (NB must be cash) then I have completed obligation to make a payment so they can either take their petrol back or take my money. No other option.

    That is a more commonplace infringement of my civil liberty, not some suicidal lunacy which hopefully will die out with the unfortunate bikers who persist in that practice. Moaning or god forbid campaigning against a common sense request only dilutes any other argument and may result in legislation which one assumes could also have the helmet-off bollocks tacked onto it for hood measure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    I have no issue with someone wishing to express a personal preference, in this case, sitting on a bike while filling it with petrol. Seems rather idiotic to me since you're gonna have to get off to pay anyway and an incredibly dangerous practice should petrol spill over onto a hot engine. But hey, maybe the OP is going for a Darwin award. I have no problem with that either.

    On the other hand, I do have a problem with people who set themselves up as some sort of spokesperson especially for my chosen lifestyle. The problem is, there are issues regarding motorcycles and petrol stations; the obvious one being the (thankfully rare) requirement to take off one's helmet. I never have and never will. If there's a sign in place, I will move on and shop elsewhere. If there is no sign and I a not served, I carefully place the fuel filler on the ground and go buy petrol elsewhere.

    Woe betides anyone who would refuse to accept payment if I decline a request to undress for them. I have offered payment, if the vendor refuses (NB must be cash) then I have completed obligation to make a payment so they can either take their petrol back or take my money. No other option.

    That is a more commonplace infringement of my civil liberty, not some suicidal lunacy which hopefully will die out with the unfortunate bikers who persist in that practice. Moaning or god forbid campaigning against a common sense request only dilutes any other argument and may result in legislation which one assumes could also have the helmet-off bollocks tacked onto it for hood measure...

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    I believe that if they show that credit cards are accepted then offering to pay by credit card is valid, it's part of their agreement with the credit card companies. As for taking the petrol back, I'd invite them to try, but they must take only (e.g.) Shell petrol, they mustn't take any Esso or Tesco or Morrisons.

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    8 pages and not one hint of a Cuddly Wuddly Beary Beary Boo from anybody?
    Standards must be slipping

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    8 pages and not one hint of a Cuddly Wuddly Beary Beary Boo from anybody?
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    Only five pages on my computer you blind cuddly wuddly beary beary boo

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    Actually I got the bloke rush out from a shell service staion on the A1 at me the other week as I was filling all 5 of the 5 litre cans. 'You can only fill 2.' Ah right I said, brimming up the 3rd one. Went in to pay. 'Sorry about that, but it's group policy,' he said. 'No worries,' I replied. 'Your garage, your rules.'

    'Of course there's nothing to stop you going across the bridge & filling the rest up at our shell garage there,' he said.

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    When filling my 2 20ltr cans for racing I either fill them at side door of van or park car a bit squint so they don't actually see the cans from their desk

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    There's limits to the number of cans I filled about 15 20l boat fuel cans in one go some years ago when I did some work for a fish farm. The most irritating bit is some pumps have a cut off at 100l and have to be reset.

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