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    So a few of us are planning a Euro trip, 6 days is what we have and we have some places to visit that we need to link up using the best roads.

    The places are Nurburgring, Ktm factory Austria, Grimsel pass and Aletschgletscher glacier Switzerland.

    Any passes or roads we should be taking in ?, anyone been up to the glacier and how close can you get on 2 wheels, read one report of a trail that leads up there from kuhboden but prefer tarmac.

    I do recall reading of some small tunnels in the same area similar to the parpailon tunnels in France does anyone know of these, a bike apparently does fit through them.....vague I know but it's all memory from a report I read 8 years ago lol

    Any more places, ideas etc and with only 6 days I assume we'll have to hit the motorways some of the time so best options there too

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    I hate to be negative but that's some mileage for 6 days.

    But than I'm ancient. Personally I'd forget Switzerland and enjoy German/Austria.

    The area around The Ring is spectacular and surely you need to do The Ring. Nearby Cocham is a popular biker visit and good as it gets for a cute German town.

    There is a motor museum at Hockenheim which is more or less on your route, not been but looks good on the net.

    Don't forget that you need road passes for Switzerland and Austria if you use their motorways, check now.

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    I'm in Switzerland in June. My route takes in the Susten, Grimsel, Nufenen, Furka and Splugen passes. They're all relatively close together so you may want to add a few together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    I'm in Switzerland in June. My route takes in the Susten, Grimsel, Nufenen, Furka and Splugen passes. They're all relatively close together so you may want to add a few together.
    Nice- guessing you have you probably left now Tim?

    We had to can the eastern european plan for this year but are doing a couple of days through Switzerland next week- we cross the channel this coming Saturday morning, chuck the bikes on the train in Paris down to the south,have a day ragging round there, couple of days in northern Italy (inc a Ducati factory tour) and then on via Jaufen / Stelvio / Fluela / San Bernadino / Furka, up through Germany , and spending our final night on the piss in Bruges before tunnel home again.
    Cant wait

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    Any of you know how expensive Switzerland is compared to say Germany? Spending a night at Lake Constance but yet to book the campsite. Few nice looking cheap ones on the North, German side of the lake who wont book in advance. If i find a Swiss one that does let me book then i may stay on that side. Whats the Average meal and a few beer for two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrickyDicky View Post
    Nice- guessing you have you probably left now Tim?

    We had to can the eastern european plan for this year but are doing a couple of days through Switzerland next week- we cross the channel this coming Saturday morning, chuck the bikes on the train in Paris down to the south,have a day ragging round there, couple of days in northern Italy (inc a Ducati factory tour) and then on via Jaufen / Stelvio / Fluela / San Bernadino / Furka, up through Germany , and spending our final night on the piss in Bruges before tunnel home again.
    Cant wait
    I'm back We did 11 passes in total, Fluela, Grimsel, Susten, Furka, Julier, Nufenen, Splugen, Maloga, Oberalp, Wolfgang and Gottard. Was a lot of riding but all worth it. Weather was pretty much perfect apart from at the very start of the B500.

    Enjoy your trip. If you've booked a time for the Ducati museum, don't be late. The fuckers won't let you in otherwise. And the weekend is Ducati Owners Club only (or it used to be)

    Edit: Try and go through Luxembourg, I thought it had some cracking roads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    I'm back We did 11 passes in total, Fluela, Grimsel, Susten, Furka, Julier, Nufenen, Splugen, Maloga, Oberalp, Wolfgang and Gottard. Was a lot of riding but all worth it. Weather was pretty much perfect apart from at the very start of the B500.

    Enjoy your trip. If you've booked a time for the Ducati museum, don't be late. The fuckers won't let you in otherwise. And the weekend is Ducati Owners Club only (or it used to be)

    Edit: Try and go through Luxembourg, I thought it had some cracking roads
    Let's hope the weather next week is good - I'm off to Switzerland too, staying in Grindelwald, so quite a few of those passes will be on my doorstep. I've done the B500, from the French to the Swiss Borders. Cracking road!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    I'm back We did 11 passes in total, Fluela, Grimsel, Susten, Furka, Julier, Nufenen, Splugen, Maloga, Oberalp, Wolfgang and Gottard. Was a lot of riding but all worth it. Weather was pretty much perfect apart from at the very start of the B500.

    Enjoy your trip. If you've booked a time for the Ducati museum, don't be late. The fuckers won't let you in otherwise. And the weekend is Ducati Owners Club only (or it used to be)

    Edit: Try and go through Luxembourg, I thought it had some cracking roads
    Excellent, cheers yeah we're booked in (to my amazement - I'd given up on it as itwas 4 weeks before I got a response) and will do- I love these trips , don't even care if it pisses down ( it won't )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    I'm back We did 11 passes in total, Fluela, Grimsel, Susten, Furka, Julier, Nufenen, Splugen, Maloga, Oberalp, Wolfgang and Gottard. Was a lot of riding but all worth it. Weather was pretty much perfect apart from at the very start of the B500.

    Enjoy your trip. If you've booked a time for the Ducati museum, don't be late. The fuckers won't let you in otherwise. And the weekend is Ducati Owners Club only (or it used to be)

    Edit: Try and go through Luxembourg, I thought it had some cracking roads
    11 tshirts?

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    11 tshirts?
    Yep, had them all on at the same time. Had to leave my jacket behind.

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    Yep, had them all on at the same time. Had to leave my jacket behind.
    I hope they were all CE approved.

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    Any of you know how expensive Switzerland is compared to say Germany? Spending a night at Lake Constance but yet to book the campsite. Few nice looking cheap ones on the North, German side of the lake who wont book in advance. If i find a Swiss one that does let me book then i may stay on that side. Whats the Average meal and a few beer for two?
    Price of Swiss currency is a bit of a pain. I would expect to pay IRO Euro 3.90 for a large (0.5 litre) draft lager in Germany or Austria, or maybe 4.40 if the bar is a bit more swish, and around 50% more in Switzerland, with other stuff also coming up at 50% pricier than southern Germany or even more. Konstanz is lovely, as is Bregenz (the town on the Austrian part of the shore of Bodensee). Surely you can find something on booking.com... failing that call the local tourist office. They operate as a kind of bureau for B&B in Germany etc.--that is where the tourist tax you pay in the hotel goes.

    Italy is not cheap, but that is for other reasons (they don't advertise the real prices, only the rip-off prices: speak the local dialect and there is an automatic discount in may places).

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    Price of Swiss currency is a bit of a pain. I would expect to pay IRO Euro 3.90 for a large (0.5 litre) draft lager in Germany or Austria, or maybe 4.40 if the bar is a bit more swish, and around 50% more in Switzerland, with other stuff also coming up at 50% pricier than southern Germany or even more. Konstanz is lovely, as is Bregenz (the town on the Austrian part of the shore of Bodensee). Surely you can find something on booking.com... failing that call the local tourist office. They operate as a kind of bureau for B&B in Germany etc.--that is where the tourist tax you pay in the hotel goes.

    Italy is not cheap, but that is for other reasons (they don't advertise the real prices, only the rip-off prices: speak the local dialect and there is an automatic discount in may places).
    Cheers. None of the sites i have tried to book will take booking more that two weeks in advance so its either a busy period or they are thinking if its dead they will shut for the season early. Some sites in Switzerland so far wont allow the dog. One said its as they have a pool yet dogs are allowed in the restaurant.

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    Europe is an odd place. One of the Swiss hotels I stayed in was particularly odd. There didn't seem to be any breakfast on offer in the restaurant bit so I asked where it was. The old lady owner said "oh, we don't do breakfast anymore, we used to but not now. We stopped when we became a bed and breakfast"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    Europe is an odd place. One of the Swiss hotels I stayed in was particularly odd. There didn't seem to be any breakfast on offer in the restaurant bit so I asked where it was. The old lady owner said "oh, we don't do breakfast anymore, we used to but not now. We stopped when we became a bed and breakfast"
    The Corn Flakes are crap in Euro land anyway.

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