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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    That would be at least 1 million people... & if 1 million people were as dodgy as this specimen it would be rather obvious.

    As the gun grabbers are wont to claim "Gun owners are the problem".. & believe me, if 100Million gun owners were a problem, you'd know it.
    In at least one-third of mass shootings, the shooter was legally prohibited from possessing firearms at the time of the shooting.
    https://everytownresearch.org/report...ings-analysis/

    That means in 2/3 of them, the gun owner got them legally. Those gun owners appear to be a problem. Unfortunately the people that are most certain about that are dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwana View Post
    https://everytownresearch.org/report...ings-analysis/

    That means in 2/3 of them, the gun owner got them legally. Those gun owners appear to be a problem. Unfortunately the people that are most certain about that are dead.
    1/3 of those who are caught & charged etc... The vast majority are gangbangers shooting other gangbangers & are never caught & prosecuted.... This applies pretty much specifically to blacks in democrat run shit holes like Baltiimore & Chicago etc... where fucking idiots protect the shooters because their hatred & distrust of the cops overides their wishes to not get shot...

    Now we wait for some blithering idiot to call me a racist for pointing out the blindingly fucking obvious.
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    The report is specifically about mass shootings which aren't generally the type of crime you're foaming about

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    1/3 of those who are caught & charged etc... The vast majority are gangbangers shooting other gangbangers & are never caught & prosecuted.... This applies pretty much specifically to blacks in democrat run shit holes like Baltiimore & Chicago etc... where fucking idiots protect the shooters because their hatred & distrust of the cops overides their wishes to not get shot...

    Now we wait for some blithering idiot to call me a racist for pointing out the blindingly fucking obvious.
    I'm sure the victims of the latest shooting sprees take solace in your wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    Only 14,611 murders? Ah, ok, nothing to be concerned about, then.



    Apart from every one of them is likely to have had family, friends, colleagues, neighbo(u)rs, customers, etc. who will be affected by the death. OK, many may well be ne'er do wells, gangbangers, etc. But a lot will still be ordinary citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    Only 14,611 murders? Ah, ok, nothing to be concerned about, then.



    Apart from every one of them is likely to have had family, friends, colleagues, neighbo(u)rs, customers, etc. who will be affected by the death. OK, many may well be ne'er do wells, gangbangers, etc. But a lot will still be ordinary citizens.
    You'd think that responsible gun owners would like something done about it too. Oh, hang on, many do. Just not the NRA and Republicans in Congress.

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    Love the "+/- an illegal" suffix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    Only 14,611 murders? Ah, ok, nothing to be concerned about, then.



    Apart from every one of them is likely to have had family, friends, colleagues, neighbo(u)rs, customers, etc. who will be affected by the death. OK, many may well be ne'er do wells, gangbangers, etc. But a lot will still be ordinary citizens.
    You should also ask him how many people are seriously injured, permanently disabled or mentally affected as the result of surviving being shot ...my guess is that it’s not a small number ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gedge View Post
    You should also ask him how many people are seriously injured, permanently disabled or mentally affected as the result of surviving being shot ...my guess is that it’s not a small number ...
    Having, as I've posted before, experienced the after-effects of a mass shooting from living in the town, I already know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    Having, as I've posted before, experienced the after-effects of a mass shooting from living in the town, I already know
    I know you do, but our resident exported redneck does like to gloss over some facts ....


    Every year, 113,108 people are shot. Among those:

    • 36,383 people die from gun violence
    • 12,830 are murdered
    • 76,725 people survive gun injuries
    • 34,566 are injured in an attack
    • 22,274 die from suicide
    • 3,554 survive a suicide attempt
    • 496 are killed by legal intervention
    • 1,376 are shot by legal intervention
    • 295 die but the intent was unknown
    • 4,471 are shot but the intent is unknown
    • 509 women are killed by their husband or male dating partner*

    These stats taken from a 5 year average ...I expect he will focus on the lower average murder rate rather than the 10x greater number of those shot ....

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    Thanks.

    Hungerford was 16 fatal, 15 seriously injured, but it affected many thousands and is still remembered 32 years on (the anniversary is in a few days).

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    Meanwhile thickaspigshit folks ignore the obvious issue that a shitbag could obtain a weapon readily. Perhaps the hidden message is that shopping at WalMart is dangerous and to be avoided by folks not wanting to eat a bullet for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwana View Post
    Meanwhile thickaspigshit folks ignore the obvious issue that a shitbag could obtain a weapon readily. Perhaps the hidden message is that shopping at WalMart is dangerous and to be avoided by folks not wanting to eat a bullet for lunch.
    Feel free to point out the details in the story about how he obtained the gun... & it would appear shopping at Walmart isn't as dangerous as trying to car jack the customers. The perp is dead, everyone else is alive.... but you have to find a negative in the story.

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