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    OK, it's not ready yet, but I'm flying an early kite to gauge interest. It's a Focus Mk1.5 apparently. LX trim. IIRC 2002 & something like 135k on it. Silver 5 door & 5 speed manual box. The Mk1.5 is a forum thing-it was facelifted 2002 & basically means extra kit now came as standard. Alloys & aircon as far as I can see. Anyhow Mk1.

    Short vsn: Dent & scrape along left hand side low down to back of passenger door to start of rear & sill. About to MOT it & do the oil etc. Cam belt fine. 300 say as it is. Everything else is either done, or about to be. Drives stupidly well, or it did! BBL on that aspect soon as front spring is replaced next week.


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    Full vsn:

    This started off as an urgent primary vehicle when I pulled out of diesels. It then became our backup motor-see later. It's been SORNED & sitting outside on my mate's driveway simply to look as if there's someone always there (burgled last year). Anyhow his Mrs wants rid of it & TBH it's a bit silly having a working car used just for that. Anything would do same job.

    We've had it since about June 2016 & it's been used as local runabout & to see my family 230 miles down south. No dogs, well not since June 2016, which I'll explain next. This is the 1.4 engine, & not that common it is. It's a perfectly good runaround, actually it excels at that & is reasonably economical at it too. Much more so the forums say than the 1.6. However, what it isn't very good at is long trips. It just doesn't have quite enough power to leave it in top all the way. Don't get me wrong, dual carriageways to nearest town 20 miles away etc is fine. But not 230 miles. If that's what you need then 1.6 is def the kiddie. But the Ford 1.6 unit is none too easy on the juice. Ah I see now-1.4 all of 74BHP & 1.6 is 99. Actually that puts this into 1st car insurance affordable territory. Whatever it is a Zetec unit, 16 valves & unbelievably DOHC. Incidentally the brakes are pretty damned good.

    5 Door. Aircon (might still have some gas, dunno yet), front & rear fogs, leccy front windows (not the seats or wing mirrors) & surprisingly a thoughtfully designed interior. It's much more modern & considered than the Golf of the same era. Drives more modernly too, actually with a more urgent engine I reckon as it is it would be a bit of a hoot. The cooking RS Mk1 is considered a bit of a classic best ever drivers job-dream on with that though-20k*** . But our Golf is a 1.6, & for us & the dogs that is what we need. Hence no dogs have been in this Focus since the 1st attempt 3 years ago!

    Bad bits-comes atm pre-dented left side passenger door & rear low down. Aldi carpark incident & whilst it's only a cheap car I was livid/ upset as before that it was immaculate. I'll see what I can do about that with the kind technical advice, tools & management from an expert on metal etc on this very forum if we can liase & find some time. Has self-closing hatch (prob got another gas strut in the garage somewhere for that). It does sip a little bit of oil but that could well be because when I changed it I stuck a load of fully synth ford spec whatever into it, which might simply be too good for an older engine. It's not much either way & certainly not like some of you are saying yer KTMs like a drink of oil! IIRC coolant might sip too, but not locatable. Def not a leak, & it's def not coming out of the exhaust or into the oil.
    It's at my mechanics as we speak for MOT & replace a broken front spring. Whilst he's in there he might as well fit the new proper Ford OE brake pads I have for it & generally check the whole vehicle over. They're thorough like that-landrover specialists actually.

    It's been dead reliable for us. One small split hose threw the idle/ revs mental, but replacing that solved it instantly. Bastard of a job for access, but we won via a guest with very small hands in the end. You'll see a very recent post about the alternator. In the end my ebay scrappy one turned out to also be toast, so I went down to the local scrappie, & they found a freely moving identical known good one. It's already on there & it's fine. Another pig of a job I might add, but it's done. TBH there isn't very much in this to actually go wrong. Or not that hasn't already been done! Did plugs last year according to FB.

    It will have full 12 months MOT & I'll take it down south asap so it has a couple of really long runs to shake it down properly. I'll run it through with Shell V power too, which is what it has in it atm. Good stuff for cleaning everything in the fuel system IMO.

    Oh timing belt-that was done pretty much a bit before we bought it-have documentary evidence of it. It's why I bought it! We needed a ready to go car at the time.


    About it really. Factory standard & unmucked about. Doesn't look at all tired & doesn't drive at all tired. Has high end branded alarm system (for a 1.4LX??). Locking wheelnuts too (have the socket).

    Ah, one little bonus here is the Ford heated front screen. You WILL love this over icy winter mornings. Also since it's been back here I've gone through a few things. All stable, esp the temps. Damned thing starts instantly on the turn of the key & settles down to a really sweet low tickover. I will have a looksee at the aircon later, but TBH in a sub 1k motor over 15 years old, well they never usually work. Actually I can't think of a 1k car I've bought that didn't have some issues. This one seems to have only minor ones. Anyhow it drove back a treat & pulls harder than I remember it doing too.

    I'll check on the details of age & mileage when I'm next over at mechanics which is next week.

    Price. We paid 750 for it June 2016, but as said it was immaculate then. Ricey's 2002 Astra 1.6 went for 590 earlier this year** Say 300? BTW that's only to you lot or family.

    Seeing as there is some lead time, if you are interested is there anything you'd like to me do to it whilst we have this time? I might as well change the oil again although it's almost certainly premature. Any pref, or recc, for oil you'd like me to put into it?

    ** https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222825454...c=1&rmvSB=true



    Here's HJ on the Mk1 Focus: I think he's bang on the money.
    https://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/re...ord/focus-mk1/


    ***OK, 19,198 then:
    https://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...cus-rs/8717409
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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    If it was LHD, I'd be there asap!! LOL

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    oh here you go, here's my initial review from when we 1st had it:
    https://www.therevcounter.co.uk/thre...LX-please-2002

    Photos are from then. All fluids have been at just under the max mark since day 3 of ownership & kept topped up to that level.

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    Quote Originally Posted by Noggin View Post
    If it was LHD, I'd be there asap!! LOL
    Bless you but trust me for your kind of routes & distances you absolutely need a 1.6. Whatever 100BHP bare minimum for your mountain & french motorways. Those modern 1.2TSI engines chuck out 110BHP.

    BTW the 1.8 version of the Focus is a known dog. Sod all more shove than the 1.6, but (obv) juicier.

    Not that anyone likes to think of these things, but the Focus is quite a heavy car & pretty well built, so I'd say you'd have a LOT more of a chance of walking away from an accident than in a Ka, Micra, Fiat 500, Corsa & an older Fiesta too. Solid thing-it's easily as solid as the Golf, perhaps more so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Editor View Post
    Bless you but trust me for your kind of routes & distances you absolutely need a 1.6. Whatever 100BHP bare minimum for your mountain & french motorways. Those modern 1.2TSI engines chuck out 110BHP.

    BTW the 1.8 version of the Focus is a known dog. Sod all more shove than the 1.6, but (obv) juicier.

    Not that anyone likes to think of these things, but the Focus is quite a heavy car & pretty well built, so I'd say you'd have a LOT more of a chance of walking away from an accident than in a Ka, Micra, Fiat 500, Corsa & an older Fiesta too. Solid thing.

    I had a 1999 1.6. It was brilliant. I would use something like that for me to save having to run the van up and down the mountain (cos thats hard work and expensive!) but I do need something LHD tho! xx

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    About it really. Factory standard & unmucked about. Doesn't look at all tired & doesn't drive at all tired. Has high end branded alarm system (for a 1.4LX??).

    I'll check on the details of age & mileage when I'm next over at mechanics which is next week.
    OK, it has 136,470 miles on it. Registered 30th September 2002. Timing belt & tensioners done 20/5/2011 at 106, 418. So 30k miles ago & worst case on those is 60k. Recent alternator, new front spring, started 1st time.

    No MOT atm as they didn't have a slot & besides they said it would need a good run 1st. So only a 15 miler, but ran it all up to temp before even moving it. Temps fine & stable, all fluids level & yes I know that's a short run, but no movement on the levels at all. No smoke/ water vapour (had GF follow me).

    No clonks or groans (apart from discs, but that's getting the corrosion etc off them). Forgot about how modern & sharp it handles. Couldn't remember how to work the aircon, but the heater is aces, full fans & directions, the all vital CD & radio works (bloody well actually-loud enough). Brakes all quite after a few miles & I did brake it down from high speed a couple of times. Engine sweet, slight roar from I think somewhere near manifold on exhaust. Investigate that later. That's a new thing for sure. It really would benefit from a much longer run & having looked at the pads, yes that's time. It's not braking atm like it used to. As said, could just simply need run, but obv I'd be getting at the caliper action whilst doing the pads. Or you would....

    Now for the bad bit. I popped into Mick the dealer who used to work for my mechanic's family. Mick immediately said "too old for me". Then he looked at the log book & said, 'blow me-so it is a 1.4. I thought you'd got it wrong. Well, it's your lucky day. Rare as rocking horse those are. And that makes a decently built car insurance on for new & young drivers. Tidy it up, full ticket & put 595 on it."

    Sorry but 295 is 295 here. OTOH, if I like you, well then maybe I'll go back to original but that's as it is right now. You can have the brake pads though!

    EDIT: Actually it pulls well enough higher up for an overtake. But that's the problem-it's not in the zone at 70mph, which means hills knock it down, which means dropping down to 4th. I think it's rather a high ratio box.

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    Can you tell us some more about the car please? :P

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    Can you post it?

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    Mate... seriously - you should be in sales

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    Default Re: dead cheap 300 Ford Focus 2002 1.4 Petrol 5 speed manual 5 door silver hatchback

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr OCD View Post
    Mate... seriously - you should be in sales
    you lot love detail & you know it

    TBH, well that's it. Being honest.

    It'll be somewhat briefer on ebay.

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