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    Thanks for the input chaps, went will a S1000XR. Not had a IL4 for years so fancied that engine.

    Will post some pics next week when arrives - red one with the gizmos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe19 View Post
    Thanks for the input chaps, went will a S1000XR. Not had a IL4 for years so fancied that engine.

    Will post some pics next week when arrives - red one with the gizmos.
    Lol you don't mess about boy. Awesome.

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    Picked it up today, done a few miles. Hopefully this link should work:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/shar...cAA4fV2h3or0Ig

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    The bike had a few extras such as crash protection, rearsets and fancy levers.


    A quick comparison, need to do more miles really:

    • Engine - It's weird riding an IL4 again. Lot more torque than I expected. Bit quicker than 1190 but not massively so. I need to adjust to the reduced engine braking! Great fun when you get it revving.
    • Handling - Feels OK, the front is very nice on smooth roads. Not so great when it gets bumpy. It's like the front suspension can't figure out what wants to do. Need to play around with the modes. These tyres are new to me also.
    • Vibrations - Bit more vibey than the 1190. I'm quite sensitive to vibrations so not sure if it will be an issue. I'm being picky here though.
    • Suspension - It's not a revelation compared to the 1190. Much the same to me.
    • Sound - Could do with something to liven it up a bit. Not bad though.
    • Brakes - About the same, all good.
    • Throttle - Probably a little better than the 1190. Very nice and no hunting.
    • Gearbox - Smooth and the quick-shifter is brilliant. I am very fussy with QS'ers too.
    • Fit - It's a bit more cramped vs the 1190 which is expected. It's very tight for space round the boots. I'm fouling the exhaust and centre stand. Not sure if that's the aftermarket rearsets. Overall I quite like the position.
    • Wind Protection - I never cracked this on the 1190 so I'd say it's OK. There is quite a bit of wind but it's not offensive. No rush to put on a fancy screen.
    • Dash - Bit meh. Need to figure it all out.
    • Size - It's a little lower and lighter which is perfect, addresses one of the key issues I had with the 1190



    Happy! Got some London trips next week so that will be a nice test of it's town manners.

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    Looks good , although I believe the white ones are faster.
    Weeksy will like your number plate.

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    Can you tinker with the suspension much or is it all just 'magic'?

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    Mostly magic, there are two dampening modes , Sport or Dynamic [even sportier].
    Then there are three spring preloads , Solo, Solo with luggage, Two up with luggage.

    I ride with a pillion so only really adjust the pre load when the roads get a bit bumpy.

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    Mine at Rockingham, they really are an upright sportsbike

    https://youtu.be/bujjKQsVRaI

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe19 View Post
    Can you tinker with the suspension much or is it all just 'magic'?
    There might be a suspension menu (dunno on the BMW) as i found the Multi too soft on standard settings as the test riders are all 70KG Italian midgets but i had sub menus to adjust front and rear preload and damping in each of the "standard" modes and luggage/pillion options ...i ramped them all up

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    Yeah it was on Dynamic and I had the KTM 1190 set to soft. So probably explains the reality check in firmness

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    I know some riders say they know if a bike is right from a single road test but I don't buy that.
    I had a few reservations about mine when I bought it but I had been riding a Suzuki for three
    years so it just felt different not bad.
    Now after two years it just feels like my bike and I am sure if I got back on my Suzuki that
    would feel strange now.

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    Yeah getting there now. Have settled on road for the suspension and dynamic for the throttle mapping. Finding the engine to be really usable and engaging, even at normal speeds, which is nice. I was a bit worried it would only come alive at speed++. When I had a TV4 I found it a little intimidating on the roads, until you got over 70 it was asleep. It's nice to have some revs to play with too

    I think the slightly more aggressive position is going to work well as I was getting shoulder pain on the 1190. Being pitched a little more forwards and closer to the bars seems to have helped.

    I think the screen I had on the 1190 was a shocker as I really like the wind protection on this, even though the screen is quite small. It does mean you can slip into silly speeds quite easily, which as I just got a NIP come through (now on 6 pts) - I need to watch.

    Just hope it doesn't break down!

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