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    It's not something I do but I see a lot of riders doing. I appreciate the logic that the law doesn't specifically say you can't if the lane has a broken line and many riders justify it on the grounds that cyclists pass left or right hand side of traffic when its stationary so why can't they

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    If it's a broken line, it's part of the highway available for everyone to use. When driving I treat it more as a 'visual cue' that I might encounter cyclists than as something I should stay out of. I've seen ridiculous situations where two oncoming cars scrape past each other on an otherwise deserted road because neither wants to put a wheel into the empty cycle lane.

    I generally try to avoid filtering on the left, but there's one junction where I do usually use the cycle lane to filter up to the front because I want to turn left at the lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spin Doctor View Post
    I've seen ridiculous situations where two oncoming cars scrape past each other on an otherwise deserted road because neither wants to put a wheel into the empty cycle lane.
    There's a meter parking area down the hill from us. It's part of the main road. Guess how often people drive out around it, towards oncoming traffic, when there's nothing parked in the bays:

    https://goo.gl/maps/ymWodzRqaKo

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    Virtually everyone, would be my guess.

    When I was a CBT / DAS trainer, people used to ride clear of marked bus stops because they thought they couldn't ride within the marked area, even when it took them almost into the path of oncoming traffic.

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    Try to avoid it but happy to use the boxes if they are empty. Try to avoid it when they are busy (London etc)

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    I always try to avoid being in the situation where I'd need to use a gutter-side lane, but it's always an escape option. Mainly because drivers are less likely to be aware of your presence there.

    I will always use the boxes at lights though in order to get away in front of the cars .

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    Re the advanced stop boxes - I gather there are a few that are CCTV monitored from behind.

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    Default Re: Filtering in bicycle lanes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Spin Doctor View Post
    Re the advanced stop boxes - I gather there are a few that are CCTV monitored from behind.
    Oh really.

    What happens if they spot you using the box? Fine? Points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe19 View Post
    Oh really.

    What happens if they spot you using the box? Fine? Points?
    Here's the offence:


    Cyclists can enter the ASL via the cycle lane or by crossing the first stop line at any point (Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016). Drivers of all vehicles must obey the rules relating to traffic lights.

    https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/a...top-lines.aspx

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    AFAIK there's always been cctv monitoring the stop lines since cctv came out (because red light running is a major danger) - I've never been troubled by it. I was going to add that I tend to put the bike right on the outside edge (crown of the road), and where possible - actually outside the cyclebox markings (or on the lines). Especially if there's a lightpost with a "pavement" surrounding it because I like to rest my foot on the pavement.

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    I am always very wary of passing on the lowside. Much less room to react.

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    Default Re: Filtering in bicycle lanes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    AFAIK there's always been cctv monitoring the stop lines since cctv came out (because red light running is a major danger) - I've never been troubled by it. I was going to add that I tend to put the bike right on the outside edge (crown of the road), and where possible - actually outside the cyclebox markings (or on the lines). Especially if there's a lightpost with a "pavement" surrounding it because I like to rest my foot on the pavement.
    There's a difference between a red light camera which come with points and CCTV monitoring things like bus and cycle lanes which issue fixed penalty fines. Xmas 2016 I got done on four wheels because I forgot the rules still apply on New Years Day and cruised up a bus lane all of 200 metres long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe19 View Post
    Oh really.

    What happens if they spot you using the box? Fine? Points?
    You're effectively crossing a stop line at a red light...

    A few years back as the legislation was proposed... (and the fine has probably gone up)

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...s-8635559.html

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    As an aside, apparently if the traffic light changes from green to amber and you cannot safely stop before the first stop line, you may cross the line but must stop before the second stop line (Highway Code rule 17.

    But that's different from filtering to the front then deliberately pulling into the cycle stop box on a red.

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    Default Re: Filtering in bicycle lanes

    Locally it tends to be moped/scooter/125 riders that tend to do it but that may be down to bike or gap width as (bigger) bike riders I know would rather sit in the queue than filter in the cycle lanes (unless passing a car that's turning right).
    I find I'm generally more cautious about filtering with drivers getting more outraged by it and more willing to nudge riders off.

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