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    Default Re: This Grenfell Tower enquiry, isn't looking too good for the LFB!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    Agreed, I just hope if the enquiry indentifies improvemnets that can be made in the procedures used to fight fires that they are put into place without the whole thing becoming a political football or somebody having to be blamed.

    A blame culture isn't good for any organisation, and I don't think it's good for the UK, but that's what we seem to have.

    A couple of points I'd like to make before the pitch fork brigade get started

    1. The fridge manufacturers didn't build a fridge knowing it could catch fire
    2. The firefighters didn't intentionally let the fire spread to the cladding and did their best to contain the fire


    So if you want to blame someone then you have to ask the following

    1. Did whoever paid for the cladding think it was safe?
    2. Did the supplier of the cladding think it was safe?
    3. Did the manufacturer of the cladding think it was safe?
    4. Did whoever tests cladding think it was safe?
    5. Was the cladding fitted in a safe way?

    Answer those questions and you'll see who is to blame.
    Though if the building had never been clad, the fire would not have spread, so you could ask who allowed the building to be clad?
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    6. How old was the fridge?
    7. Had it been repaired/refurbished? If so, who did the work?
    8. Was the fault something the manufacturers knew about? (It was obviously faulty, it burst into flames.)

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    Default Re: This Grenfell Tower enquiry, isn't looking too good for the LFB!

    Quote Originally Posted by saga_lout View Post
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    6. How old was the fridge?
    7. Had it been repaired/refurbished? If so, who did the work?
    8. Was the fault something the manufacturers knew about? (It was obviously faulty, it burst into flames.)
    Which? are running a campaign to get plastic backed fridges banned. Grenfell wasn't an isolated incident.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/plastic-backed-fridges-remove-sale-fire-risk-which-a8288681.html

    https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/04/250-fridge-freezers-fridges-and-freezers-named-which-dont-buys-over-fire-safety-concerns/

    https://publications.parliament.uk/p...is/503/503.pdf

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