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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Doesn't matter if they are destroyed, lost or stolen. The investors still make a ton of money. It's a cash cow. Unregulated expansion (and I don't know if it is in the UK) means rival enterprises will catch onto the scam and cash in too.

    Result: tens of thousands of redundant bicycles left littering the streets. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money invested into "green" projects disappears into the Caymans. Local scrapyards left scratching their heads how to even begin recycling mixed scrap like this.

    It's so obvious and so predictable it makes me weep.

    Correct me if I'm wrong (preferably with facts 'n stuff) but isn't that a whole load of complete bollocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPygmy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong (preferably with facts 'n stuff) but isn't that a whole load of complete bollocks?
    Sadly no.

    I honestly wish it was bollocks. Read'em and weep. https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...cycles/556268/

    So what is that very same Shanghai company doing now I wonder??

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    Default Re: Mobike cycle scheme moves out of Manchester due to locals vandalising bikes...

    And some people want us to set up car sharing schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    This is how it ends:

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    Entropy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yambo View Post
    Entropy!
    Yeah, exactly! And LOTS of it

    Recycling is all well and good but it is the energy expenditure which is the planet killer. That and of course the "free" natural resources which mankind is consuming at an unsustainable rate.

    On top of that is of course waste disposal. We've all seen "plastic island" in the Maldives?

    The problem with bicycles is the amount of time and energy you have to expend to recycle one. Even I struggled recently when rather than lob one in a skip as part of a job, I tried to get some useful material out of it. Too much mixed material, too difficult to separate and you end up with random rubber, plastic and cable etc. Complete nightmare. Most of them will get shredded and end up as "landfill". I gave up eventually and threw it away which is totally unlike me. I virtually spend my life trying to save stuff.

    "Landfill" is one of those terms that will end up with connotations beyond it's original harmless euphemism. Like Sellafield or Windscale, it will engender an entirely more sinister meaning over time...

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    Default Re: Mobike cycle scheme moves out of Manchester due to locals vandalising bikes...

    The Ofo one in Sheffield was withdrawn in July, unfortunately we're not mature enough as a country to enjoy the benefits of this service without ruining it for others.
    Last edited by Jasper; 14-10-18 at 10:34. Reason: F for ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyseriA View Post
    Tbh, there have been similar issues wherever they've tried to do it, even in places like Singapore.

    I don't have any reference to what it's like elsewhere, but I won't really miss them littering up the place.
    Didnít work here either

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    Default Re: Mobike cycle scheme moves out of Manchester due to locals vandalising bikes...

    Saw loads of them in Cambridge last week. No idea if it's a royal pain in the backside to manage or how costly it is.
    They looked as if they were being used well enough - my primary thought was "not again ..." https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...-bike-12472055

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    The type in London is arguably a better idea, with a defined docking station so you can pick one up and go there etc. I don't think Manchester is particularly suited to cycling everywhere, unless you're on a mountain bike to crash through all the shitty potholes. I've almost given up riding my carbon road bike, it's just going to get fucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Yeah, exactly! And LOTS of it

    Recycling is all well and good but it is the energy expenditure which is the planet killer. That and of course the "free" natural resources which mankind is consuming at an unsustainable rate.

    On top of that is of course waste disposal. We've all seen "plastic island" in the Maldives?

    The problem with bicycles is the amount of time and energy you have to expend to recycle one. Even I struggled recently when rather than lob one in a skip as part of a job, I tried to get some useful material out of it. Too much mixed material, too difficult to separate and you end up with random rubber, plastic and cable etc. Complete nightmare. Most of them will get shredded and end up as "landfill". I gave up eventually and threw it away which is totally unlike me. I virtually spend my life trying to save stuff.

    "Landfill" is one of those terms that will end up with connotations beyond it's original harmless euphemism. Like Sellafield or Windscale, it will engender an entirely more sinister meaning over time...
    A lot of UK 'landfill' waste now goes to thermal energy recovery. Metals are sometimes recovered beforehand through mechanical pre treatment and almost always afterwards from the residual material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Yeah, exactly! And LOTS of it

    Recycling is all well and good but it is the energy expenditure which is the planet killer. That and of course the "free" natural resources which mankind is consuming at an unsustainable rate.

    On top of that is of course waste disposal. We've all seen "plastic island" in the Maldives?

    The problem with bicycles is the amount of time and energy you have to expend to recycle one. Even I struggled recently when rather than lob one in a skip as part of a job, I tried to get some useful material out of it. Too much mixed material, too difficult to separate and you end up with random rubber, plastic and cable etc. Complete nightmare. Most of them will get shredded and end up as "landfill". I gave up eventually and threw it away which is totally unlike me. I virtually spend my life trying to save stuff.

    "Landfill" is one of those terms that will end up with connotations beyond it's original harmless euphemism. Like Sellafield or Windscale, it will engender an entirely more sinister meaning over time...
    The uncomfortable truth is that we (human beings) are a total cancer on this planet and add nothing but harm, with the mass increase in the world's population i see this ending very badly for the generations to come. The current recycling push is good but in the end i see this as tinkering at the edge's, the future large scale war's will be around resources that currently we take for granted (energy,water,food). Enjoy what we have, as those yet to come will look back on this time with envy and disgust.

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