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    Nigel Farage Tweet from April 2016 is doing the rounds at the moment

    "If we vote to Remain on June 23rd it is the end of the steel industry in this country. Simple as that. We must Leave EU"

    Plenty of sources, here's one https://www.indy100.com/article/nige...-tweet-8925651

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Coal and steel go hand in hand.
    Correct. You need coal to have a steel industry. You don't need a UK coal industry to have a UK steel industry though - you would ordinarily expect it, but if UK coal becomes more expensive than imported coal, buying UK coal would likely take the UK steel industry down, as it would then be artificially expensive to make UK steel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    It's why China are doing so well because they are smack in the middle of their own industrial revolution.
    Actually, I think that you'll find that the reason that China is doing so well is that Chinese industry doesn't have inconveniences like Worker's rights, minimum wage, health and safety at work etc. They're not just in the middle of their own industrial revolution, they're reliving ours, including the reasons that we did so well in ours.

    Is Sir missing the 'good old days'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobzilla View Post
    Correct. You need coal to have a steel industry. You don't need a UK coal industry to have a UK steel industry though - you would ordinarily expect it, but if UK coal becomes more expensive than imported coal, buying UK coal would likely take the UK steel industry down, as it would then be artificially expensive to make UK steel.

    Actually, I think that you'll find that the reason that China is doing so well is that Chinese industry doesn't have inconveniences like Worker's rights, minimum wage, health and safety at work etc. They're not just in the middle of their own industrial revolution, they're reliving ours, including the reasons that we did so well in ours.

    Is Sir missing the 'good old days'?
    Sir has evidently forgotten what he has previously said about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

    https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow-needs2.webp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobzilla View Post
    Is Sir missing the 'good old days'?
    My views on pollution and AGW are very well known. Britain did well out of the industrial revolution but we now know the true cost in terms of CO2, pollution, etc. China also know this but are building more and more coal fired power stations, are the world leaders in pollution and steel production (?) as well as dumping an estimated three million tons of plastic waste into the ocean every year.

    Three.

    Million.

    Tons.

    That's about of third of the estimated worldwide total and there's no sign of them stopping any time soon. So yeah, I am a teensy bit anti-China and I don't believe in the "well you did it to get where you are, now it's our turn" excuse either.

    Please go ahead and tell me how clean and environmentally responsible China claim they are being. I could do with a good laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirahna View Post
    Nigel Farage Tweet from April 2016 is doing the rounds at the moment

    "If we vote to Remain on June 23rd it is the end of the steel industry in this country. Simple as that. We must Leave EU"

    Plenty of sources, here's one https://www.indy100.com/article/nige...-tweet-8925651

    We are still in the EU and the steel industry is suffering. Didn't see you as a Farage supporter.

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    Further to Screwd's obs on China......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48353341

    ie not just coal and plastic

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    Well, I've just exercised my franchise.

    Being a thick as pigshit Brexiteer I wasn't quite sure how to vote, luckily there was an arrow pointing to the correct box to put my cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saga_lout View Post
    Well, I've just exercised my franchise.

    Being a thick as pigshit Brexiteer I wasn't quite sure how to vote, luckily there was an arrow pointing to the correct box to put my cross.
    Your fifth-columnist fellow-travellers in the councils have been doing their bit to narrow the odds. Or is it just incompetence?

    EU citizens in UK complain of being denied right to vote
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-admin-errors

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowsider View Post
    Your fifth-columnist fellow-travellers in the councils have been doing their bit to narrow the odds. Or is it just incompetence?

    EU citizens in UK complain of being denied right to vote
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-admin-errors
    Probably incompetence rather than malice. This is government when all said and done.

    Hanlon's Razor: Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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    Germany plant a bomb under a polling station in SW London.

    Is there anything the EU won't do to try and stop us from leaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Germany plant a bomb under a polling station in SW London.

    Is there anything the EU won't do to try and stop us from leaving?
    Don't worry Screwd, it's that LondOn, they're all remainers there.

    Hoist by their own petard, so to speak.

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    Received this email from the good ol' Labour Party this afternoon, maybe should have posted this in the Humour section

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    Quote Originally Posted by melons View Post
    Received this email from the good ol' Labour Party this afternoon, maybe should have posted this in the Humour section

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    Loving the hypocrisy.

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    And exit May, stage left.....

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