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    I like the idea of it, in the same way that I like the Trumpet retro's and more so the Guzzi V7. But the RE seems to do the same (or very similar) for a lot less. On the SV comment I personally think that's true of most of Triumphs or indeed most other firms retro ranges other than the Thruxton, top end stuff.

    I'd be tempted as a 2nd plodder bike, as that's my problem with the Triumphs and V7s they are too expensive for me to consider, whereas a £5500 RE is likely to be fairly cheap in 2-3 years time.

    My son's friend's Dad works for Harris and he was telling me that the RE design/testing team are pretty much all ex triumph.

    Edit: Having watched the vid the dealer in the Vid is in Bushey not far from me I might be tempted by a test ride in the summer

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    Default Re: Royal Enfield: First U.K. Video Review

    Old chap in my local bike club has proper been looking forward to this, he had a test ride this week and loved it, but his review makes it out to be just like a 60's bike, rather than a modern interpretation.

    He's been a dealers today to haggle. They've already sold 46 of them, all waiting for the March reg change and sold two more while he was in the shop.

    Proving quite popular then!

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    Dependant on how my morning goes, I'm riding one this Saturday.
    I'm not really seriously thinking of buying one, but am genuinely intrigued, and there's a dealer near me so I thought why not.
    Haven't currently decided whether to arrive on the 790, the Nordwest, the H2 the 525EXC or in the car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrickyDicky View Post
    Dependant on how my morning goes, I'm riding one this Saturday.
    I'm not really seriously thinking of buying one, but am genuinely intrigued, and there's a dealer near me so I thought why not.
    Haven't currently decided whether to arrive on the 790, the Nordwest, the H2 the 525EXC or in the car...
    Look forward to reading your review.


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    I'd rather like one.
    But I've doomed myself to always comparing anything/everything to Couchies old CBR600 sat in the garage, and I haven't seen a single motorcycle in 12 months that I could reasonably go "Yeah, it's loads better, I think I'll get one".

    The bike looks great and from the reviews it rides well, and the absolute smasher is the price.
    It goes to show what sort of thing you can do when you're selling hundreds of thousands of bikes and you have that sort of scale to adjust your margins.

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    Well, the weather was a bit shit but I popped over to my local Enfield dealer today in the car to take a look and have a little go on one of the twins, they've got one of each, the Interceptor, and the GT in what seem to be the default colours.




    I'd never seen one in the metal until today, and I must admit, was pleasantly surprised, although of course, it will be interesting to see how they look after a few months on mucky roads, the build quality is undoubtedly another level or two up from where the singles have been, and I'd put it on a par with 390 KTMs (also built in India), and whilst the 390s are definitely a bit cheaper and sort of Chinese looking in places compared to their bigger KTM brothers, overall they are OK





    Without a doubt, by far the most desirable for me was the Continental GT- not just because it looked the sportiest ( a relative term), it just seemed better designed aesthetically to me in that the tank looked a better shape and more sensible width, and the seat, and bars (sort of clip-ons on the GT compared to a bit naff chromed and braced 70s MX type bars on the Interceptor ) were better.






    And although I couldn't ride the GT today, I sat on it it and it felt much more " normal" to me- by that I mean the relationship between the bars, footrests, and seat/tank just felt more right whereas that was the aspect that felt quite weird to me on the Interceptor, not really like anything else I've ridden, and I've ridden lots of stuff.

    It feels for me like the footrests are just in a very strange position- the nature of the bike and engine means that they feel very wide apart, and I think this is exagerated by the relatively thin tank on the Interceptor, but its more than that, its the also relatively thin and lowish seat, and what seemed to me to be wide bars- I don't think its as I just ride sports bikes, as I don't , but it feels strange to me.

    As for the rest of it,

    • it's quite loud, sounds cool- Until today I never knew that it was a 270 degree crank , so like the KTM 790, it sounds like a V
    • The bottom end of the motor is F. massive! very large looking, relatively speaking and quite short looking barrels
    • Clocks seem very small, compared to something like a bandit- they are fine, just look quite small diameter to me.
    • its goes a hell of a lot better than I was expecting for 40-odd hp


    Pretty punchy and definitely not gutless;- although when you wind it on it's obvious there's not too much there, it's a perfect sort of motor for gentle bimbling but definitely still got enough to be fun without getting you into trouble and sounds cool too. I can imagine it could feel a bit underpowered on a motorway or if you're trying to get somewhere in a hurry, but that really isn't either of them are about so it's a bit of a pointless comment I guess, but hopefully, you get the point.



    The suspension looked the same on both bikes to me, and was another strange aspect- at rest, sitting on it and bouncing it it felt soft at the front, but stiff and very over-damped at the rear, but out on the road, it feels anything but - the roads were pretty grotty and slimy so there were no heroics, but it felt dead soggy TBH, to the point that if I had one I would have to do something with it.
    The rear shocks look pretty cool IMO, but as far as I can see are adjustable for pre-load only so I reckon that would mean new shocks, and some new guts for the forks as far as I can see, there is no adjustment on them.

    So, I guess the question is, would I buy one?
    The answer for me is currently no- although the Continental GT definitely has an appeal at that price, the dealer also had this sitting there in the showroom which although undoubtedly an unfair comparison, as it was up at almost twice the price of the RE, numberplate hanger aside is just so so much lovlier (to me anyway) in every way to look at, even before you start comparing specs etc, that if I was in the market for this sort of bike, and could only afford the Enfield, I would honestly scrimp and save for however much longer it took to be able to afford the Triumph.
    In fact, seeing it, made me want to ride it, or one of the same, so once the weather cheers up, that's what I'm going to do

    Edit:- They are, according to this dealer at least, in short supply already- the only two they'd had so far are these ones which although they will, of course, sell, they won't yet as they are for demo, and although he seemed pretty vague about lead times, I got the impression that its at least a couple of months.

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    Default Re: Royal Enfield: First U.K. Video Review

    Excellent review. Agree with you about the tank on the Interceptor. Not as good looking as the tank on the Café racer.

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    Default Re: Royal Enfield: First U.K. Video Review

    I've only seen them in pics, but I think the Interceptor looks the better, especially in the grey...



    I like the egg shaped bottom end, looks like a BSA Unit Twin.

    I think the tank seam looks a bit too deep.

    That rear brake pedal lets the whole thing down.

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    Default Re: Royal Enfield: First U.K. Video Review

    I prefer the Interceptor, the cafe racer thing looks like it's trying a bit too hard.

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    I had a spare afternoon today, and as the weather was so glorious and roads almost completely free of shite, the H2 got an outing and on my route I popped into my local friendly Enfield dealer again, not really to ride the GT (he has loads of other interesting stuff there too) , but it was sitting there PDI'd and ready to go , and he offered, so I thought, why not- of the twins, it was the one I had wanted to ride last week but was unable to , so thought it might be interesting to see how the two of them compared.




    Suprise. suprise, riding position aside, there is very little , or no difference .
    I prefer the position of the bars and footrests on the GT over the Interceptor , but although having slightly more rearset footrest positions, the GT still has the wierd overly wide feeling on the placement of them- I'm guessing its probably to try and get your knees away from the heat guards over the fins on the cylinder head as in the pic below, but it doesn't work as I till found my knees touching those guards, maybe something you would get used to , but wierd all the same.



    Today the roads were just about perfect, and I don't know whether it was because of me riding it harder as a result, or having just jumped off the H2 (last week when it was damp I drove there in the car), but the engine underwhelmed me more this time.
    The positive stuff is that it has a very nice exhaust note for a standard bike, and is very smooth for a 4 stroke twin , but possibly as a result of the smoothness and relative lowly power output, and the fact that I was riding it harder, it came across today as a pretty bland engine, and I didn't get the punchy sort of impression that I did last week.
    And yes, the suspension, absolutely fine bimbling along looking at the scenery, or yourself in shop windows, (and a lovely soft comfy feeling seat) but start attacking roads with enthusiasm and it all gets a bit wobbly
    I'm glad I've tried them but pleasant as it was, after today's ride I came to the conclusion that if I had to choose between two bikes only, and those were an Enfield twin or a 390 Duke (same sort of power and similar price-point) , I would honestly take the KTM.

    I'm guessing some will think I'm mad , but I guess it depends what you want out of a bike, and what aspects give you the most pleasure. I'm sure they are going to sell tons of them on the looks/price/exhaust note alone, and the vast majority of those buyers probably wouldn't have any issue with some of what I see as its failings, but as much as I still like the looks of them in a sort of strange way, it's definitely not one for me.






    After I left , i stopped in at my local Triumph dealer on the way back with the idea of potentailly getting a go on the new Speed Twin- it was booked out, so I couldn't ride it today, but had a good look over it and sit on it and thought it is really nice in the metal, as are most of the Triumph range now IMO (I still fancy a Speed Triple RS , and like the look of the Scrambler too) , and so I spent a very enjoyable 30 mins or so there sitting on most of them and chatting to the sales guy and am riding the Speed Twin in the week, assuming this nice weather continues.



    And, shock-horror, I'm also planning to test a couple of Harleys next weekend too, but that's another story and perhaps for another thread , we shall see

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    Post a pic of yourself in the leather chaps when you test the HDs

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    I rode the GT the other day.

    To start with the bad bits - it does sound like an old brit bike. The revs were hunting a bit at idle which I felt at 1500rpm was a bit high. I found the riding position a bit cramped but not uncomfortable. I also had to turn my head to use the mirrors rather than just look as well.

    Everything else - it was a pleasure to ride. The engine, while it's never ging to storm the place was a peach and promised a bitmore to come with the loss of the exhausts and some dyno time. The handling was very neutral (some might say too much) but it felt very planted and stable. Build quality seemed ok - some good ideas in there and the switch gear was in the normal place and the clocks were easily readable.

    It was comfy at spead - I hit 60-70 mph easily and there were no vibes or anything, again, stability was great on long sweeping corners and had it been a bit less damp and cold I reckon it can be hustled along nicely. The seat was firm but ok and the begs not too high.

    I reckon it will be a great bike for everything other than motorway work and I'm not sure I would want to tour 2 up but for an a-b leisure machine, some commuting thrown in and back road blasts to the cafe on a sunny day it is spot on.

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    Default Re: Royal Enfield: First U.K. Video Review

    An extended review on this month’s Ride magazine - April issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DomingoSpear View Post
    Royal Enfield is more about survival than revival, but the latest Bullet certainly will revive memories, as from a distance it’s almost indistinguishable from the first Enfield Bullets built in Redditch in 1955.

    One of Royal Enfield’s most important Bullet customers during the Sixties was the Indian army, which found the rugged British singles ideal for the poor roads and mountainous terrain they often had to negotiate.
    ....https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...et-review.html

    Great C&P... :rolleyes:

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