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    Morning all.

    Designing a seat / heater box for my van.

    It's going to be 80cm wide, 60cm deep and 60 cm high.

    I'd like all the joints and corners to be properly jointed, ie bits cut out of the wood so they slot together. Glued as well.

    Can anyone recommend links or techniques and/or tools to do this. I'm guessing I'll need a router and some sort of jig. But as I'm new to this I've no idea what I should even be searching for !

    I realise I could do it all with "L" brackets but I'd like a neat job if possible.


    Edit, batons for the frame, I was looking at 34mm by 34mm pine, Box will be faced with 18mmpine board

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Didn't you have to make a box in school woodwork?
    From memory all the tools we used were a tape measure, saw, mallet, chisel and file.
    Or you could use those little dowels you get with flat pack furniture, in which case you'll need a saw, drill and tape measure.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Kreg jig?

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    Kreg jig?
    If the OP is using 18mm pine board or even ply, this is the answer. Google pocket hole joinery. You can easily fill the holes afterwards, sand and paint. No need for any battens.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    You'll be needing the tails of some doves ftw.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Go for the rustic look?


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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Just use lap joints, enough videos on the internet to show they can be cut.


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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    Didn't you have to make a box in school woodwork?
    Did anyone make one that wasn't a bit shit?

    I think my parents had my bird box and my weather vane in their garden until not that long ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle View Post
    Did anyone make one that wasn't a bit shit?

    I think my parents had my bird box and my weather vane in their garden until not that long ago
    Mine was distinctly wobbly and uneven, I like to think I could do better now.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jody View Post

    I'd like all the joints and corners to be properly jointed, ie bits cut out of the wood so they slot together. Glued as well.
    You don't need expensive tools or jigs to make dovetail joints (and they'd be the best looking joints on something the size you want), just a bit of care and time. You would need a decent saw though and a ruler and a pencil. A bevel guage would be nice too but not absolutely necessary. YouTube is your friend.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Why not:



    You only need joints or rebates if you want to show off the wood and your woodworking skills.

    If you are going to paint it, the joints don't really matter so long as it's glued and screwed to a frame.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle View Post
    Did anyone make one that wasn't a bit shit?

    I think my parents had my bird box and my weather vane in their garden until not that long ago
    Mine was great, Mr Jowett only allowed the best to have veneered lids, mine had a veneered lid.

    roud:

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Personally if I was making something that didn't need to be opened often like a heater box I'd likely just use the method that Screwd has put a picture up of and glue the corners before screwing them together.
    You could dick about and dovetail joint it but or even use the appropriately titled Box Joint but honestly I don't think it would be a significant improvement in terms of strength for a substantial increase in time it would take.
    If you feel the need to look inside it regularly then maybe go ahead with those methods though.
    The way Screwd has shown is the way people have been boxing out wheel arches for donkeys years though.

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    Mine was great, Mr Jowett only allowed the best to have veneered lids, mine had a veneered lid.

    roud:
    Did Mr Jowett get wood and let you french polish his ?

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    Default Re: Making a box frame; joints; tool recommendation

    For clarity....

    This box is to box in the heater, but it also creates storage around the heater.

    It will be a seat/ step too.

    It won't have a 'bottom panel' or a 'back panel' so I'm pretty sure I'm gonna need a frame

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