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    Sounds ominous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KorkyKat View Post
    Boeing’s stock value has taken a major hit.
    I'm sure Trumps tweet outlining his knowledge of aircraft systems didn't help matters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    I'm sure Trumps tweet outlining his knowledge of aircraft systems didn't help matters..
    It’s ok - he sold his Boeing stock just before he fired twitter up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    I'm sure Trumps tweet outlining his knowledge of aircraft systems didn't help matters..
    To be fair, I suspect that a bare minimum of technical knowledge is required to understand the significance of this image.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irie View Post
    To be fair, I suspect that a bare minimum of technical knowledge is required to understand the significance of this image.

    That looks a bit bigger than the average size of a small hotel lobby that I've been to.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47567039

    Boeing 737 Max aircraft grounded 'until May at least'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneerly Down View Post
    That looks a bit bigger than the average size of a small hotel lobby that I've been to.
    They all do that, sir.

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    It's going to cause issues in Seattle where dozens of almost complete aircraft are already stuffed into every available square inch of the Boeing airfield awaiting engines. They're either going to have to slow down production, or fit engines for short flights to places like Larsen AFB etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    ...already stuffed into every available square inch of the Boeing airfield...

    Won't that make taking off a bit tricky anyway?

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    Won't that make taking off a bit tricky anyway?
    They've put one underground

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowsider View Post
    They've put one underground
    They all do that, sir.

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    If things are extreme as that article makes out then I am amazed.

    To be clear, it's not unusual for certification to be delegated to manufacturers, all of the aerospace OEMs self certify and have done for many years. The OEMs and their processes are regularly audited by third parties.

    But it sounds like something has been going wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dazzle View Post
    If things are extreme as that article makes out then I am amazed.

    To be clear, it's not unusual for certification to be delegated to manufacturers, all of the aerospace OEMs self certify and have done for many years. The OEMs and their processes are regularly audited by third parties.

    But it sounds like something has been going wrong
    Probably criminally wrong.

    Current and former engineers directly involved with the evaluations or familiar with the document shared details of Boeing’s “System Safety Analysis” of MCAS, which The Seattle Times confirmed.

    The safety analysis:

    - Understated the power of the new flight control system, which was designed to swivel the horizontal tail to push the nose of the plane down to avert a stall. When the planes later entered service, MCAS was capable of moving the tail more than four times farther than was stated in the initial safety analysis document.

    - Failed to account for how the system could reset itself each time a pilot responded, thereby missing the potential impact of the system repeatedly pushing the airplane’s nose downward.

    - Assessed a failure of the system as one level below “catastrophic.” But even that “hazardous” danger level should have precluded activation of the system based on input from a single sensor — and yet that’s how it was designed.

    The people who spoke to The Seattle Times and shared details of the safety analysis all spoke on condition of anonymity to protect their jobs at the FAA and other aviation organizations.


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    I wonder what Boeings take on the VW emissions scandal was.

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