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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    Common sense says that you're correct, but you might be wrong, economies of scale might mean that it takes less energy to make from scratch than it does to reuse something - I don't know, I'm just saying.
    There's another aspect: Screwd uses the forge as a hobby (e.g. making knives which are unique, and presumably for the pleasure of utilising his skills, rather than needing a knife). Should there by a 'cap' on energy use / CO2 and other emissions, etc., for pleasure?

    And another aspect: Screwd's forge isn't in use 24/7, so wastes a lot of time and fuel heating up, then colling down. Commercial forges are probably far more fuel efficient.

    And yet another aspect: yes, Screwd recycling old metal may be more fuel efficient than mining and refining new material, but perhaps not if it requires use of an almost-empty van to transport it - compared to a container load of items, or a ship laden with containers.

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    Should there by a 'cap' on energy use / CO2 and other emissions, etc., for pleasure?
    100% tax on private leisure vehicles not used for commercial purposes or commuting.
    Ban the printing of non academic books.
    100% tax on take away's and any food deemed not healthy and not necessary for survival.
    etc
    etc
    etc

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    any food deemed not healthy and not necessary for survival.
    It's only the final few mouthfuls or each serving that are essential, so it would be unethical to waste the rest.

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    I mean, finding a boogieman to fear is a clear MO of people in power to maintain that power, but science also makes it pretty clear that climate change is nothing positive and that it is happening.
    Enter the idea of God(s). It isn't a new concept. However as (some) people become more and more sceptical about the existence of one or more of these imaginary friends then enter the great god of global warming to be feared and respected in a similar way to the former, and used in the same way to maintain order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
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    To change the enviroment for the better people need to change their mindset massively, they need to eat less, use less energy, have less personnel space and stop buying shit they don't need, people need to work as a team to solve the world's problems, with no one any better off than anyone else.

    BUT people are greedy arseholes who would rather wipe out their species than work together, and most of them don't care what they've got, so long as they've got more than someone else.
    I agree completely. What we need is completely different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlongbeard View Post
    100% tax on private leisure vehicles not used for commercial purposes or commuting.
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    Welcome to the Brave New World, Comrade.

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    However as (some) people become more and more sceptical about the existence of one or more of these imaginary friends then enter the great god of global warming to be feared and respected in a similar way to the former, and used in the same way to maintain order.
    Although . . . how well proven is the link between CFCs and the hole in the ozone layer, then reduction their use and the hole reducing? If proven, then that's more than has been achieved with any God, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saga_lout View Post
    I agree completely. What we need is completely different people.
    Maybe they'll evolve from the polluted remnants of our current civilisation

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    Welcome to the Brave New World, Comrade.
    No, welcome to my world aside from my weekly take away that lot would have no impact on me at this time

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    Although . . . how well proven is the link between CFCs and the hole in the ozone layer, then reduction their use and the hole reducing? If proven, then that's more than has been achieved with any God, isn't it?
    Hah! There was that time I prayed for rain and I got rain. How do you explain that if God didn't do it, heretic?



    I was in Manchester...

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    No, welcome to my world aside from my weekly take away that lot would have no impact on me at this time
    I eat several takeaways a week as part of my wealth distribution program, not because I'm a lazy fat git.

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    Hah! There was that time I prayed for rain and I got rain. How do you explain that if God didn't do it, heretic?



    I was in Manchester...
    That's like praying for incense in the Vatican

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    That's like praying for incest in the Vatican
    Corrected for you

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    That's like praying for incest in the Vatican
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    Corrected for you
    Betcha that prayer was answered centuries ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    Recycling is good, so long as it uses less resources than creating something new, better would be to not use it in the first place, I'm amazed the amount of plastic recycling my family produces
    Yes I suppose I should have specified upcycling for the plastics. I built an HDPE bottle cutter. been collecting milk jugs now for many years, I have several hundred, maybe a dozen black bags full and have been trying to come up with a purpose other than melting them down. Plant pots is a bit obvious but actually pretty handy, here's my prototype.



    Note the use of scrap rebar (I've got miles of the stuff!) <proud> Anyway they're full of seeds and the handle section would allow me to fit a dedicated water tube for err, watering. The main "trick" was accurate cutting and I just got the additional parts required to finish that little project. I will experiment with vanes for wind generators etc. once I have a super accurate bottle chopper. If it doesn't work, they go into the shredder, via the oven and turn into mallets.

    The humble HDPE milk jug is a wonder of the modern age and it seems a shame to just throw them away, so I don't. Incidentally, if you want to buy one, they're 30p each.Yeah, that surprised me too but HDPE (first use unrecycled) is a valuable commodity in its own right. You'd be surprised if you wanted to buy a chunk of it at just how expensive it is.

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