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    Quote Originally Posted by a_morti View Post
    Or do you conclude that you're going to hit the wall anyway now, and it's going to take a lot of effort to hit the brakes just to hit it less hard, so you'd rather not bother?
    Brace for impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
    Maybe.

    When your grand kids want to know why they have no food what will you say
    Reminds me of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Alanis Obomsawin
    When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money.

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    Hope everyone is enjoying this climate change nonsense. Freezing cold and pissing it down in mid June.

    Global warming my arse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwdriver View Post
    Hope everyone is enjoying this climate change nonsense. Freezing cold and pissing it down in mid June.

    Global warming my arse!
    102deg here today

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX61 View Post
    102deg here today
    28c here today

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    Quote Originally Posted by saga_lout View Post
    It's a hobgoblin.

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken
    Sounds like a (weak, selfish and paranoid) attempt to dismiss any or all issues as conspiracy theories and enable people to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    I don't think there's any debate about whether the earth is getting warmer, it's the cause of it that's up for discussion, is it man made or a warming up as the earth goes through one of it's natural temperature change cycles.
    The scientific community / quality peer reviewed literature seemed to make its mind up on this some time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsignorMartinez View Post
    Sounds like a (weak, selfish and paranoid) attempt to dismiss any or all issues as conspiracy theories and enable people to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.
    Where have you been? I posted that two months ago. I've changed my underwear and my mind at least five times since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsignorMartinez View Post
    The scientific community / quality peer reviewed literature seemed to make its mind up on this some time ago.
    The scientific community has been wrong before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    The scientific community has been wrong before.
    OK I'll bite. When has such a consensus, with such a breadth of supporting data ever happened before - and been incorrect?

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    Default Re: Global warming, is it really having an effect?

    The sun orbiting a flat earth ( and the Americans landing on the moon )

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadeager View Post
    The sun orbiting a flat earth ( and the Americans landing on the moon )
    Well I suspect the data were not available so it was faith rather than science that gave us a geocentric view. Galileo and Copernicus held a different view....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidge View Post
    Well I suspect the data were not available so it was faith rather than science that gave us a geocentric view. Galileo and Copernicus held a different view....
    What was their view based on? Data. One bunch had (simply? wilfully?) misinterpreted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsignorMartinez View Post
    The scientific community / quality peer reviewed literature seemed to make its mind up on this some time ago.
    Good for them, doesn't mean their right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    Good for them, doesn't mean their right.
    No but what it means is there is a paper trail for observations, data, assumptions, probabilities etc. and then finally a theory with models and predictions. So if the predictions don't add up perfectly you go back down the chain until you find and error or make a new discovery. This is how science works and human knowledge makes progress.

    What level of confidence can I have in your "opinion" compared to the above? As close to zero as makes no difference I should expect since my guess is all you have to offer is "yeah but they've been wrong so it's not true".

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