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    Quote Originally Posted by a_morti View Post
    Worth bearing in mind it's like that for a reason, riding away with your stand out is easy to do and can be a disaster at the first left hander.
    Yeah i know... But it's annoying and I'd like to start the bike up while I get ready on the sidestand rather than the centre stand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevep1980 View Post
    Yeah i know... But it's annoying and I'd like to start the bike up while I get ready on the sidestand rather than the centre stand

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    why

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
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    Because he doesn't have to turn left on his way to work.

    Depending the engine design, and I would not expect yours to be high tech, the top right of the engine can starve for oil of you leave it warming up on the side stand. Maybe they built this character feature in to guard against that happening? Or they were just too cheap to fit a diode and whatever else is needed for it to run on the stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_morti View Post
    Because he doesn't have to turn left on his way to work.

    Depending the engine design, and I would not expect yours to be high tech, the top right of the engine can starve for oil of you leave it warming up on the side stand. Maybe they built this character feature in to guard against that happening? Or they were just too cheap to fit a diode and whatever else is needed for it to run on the stand.
    Maybe they don't want a learner to go down the road with his side stand down.
    My bike is quite low tech .Its a 2019 Ducati multistrada.
    Surprisingly I have no main stand and can start with the side stand down.

    Not sure if engine oil pumps know which way u the bike is.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    Some of the 1980's Hondas had a stand with a rubber tongue that bent up when the stand was in use and stuck down and flicked the stand up if you rode away with it down.
    My 1972 Honda CB250 had one like that. It was the only good bit of design on the bike - simple, cheap, reliable and effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
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    Why not. Its the main reason i binned mine. Never left side stand down since my learning days and even then i have never fell off when it dug in. It just jumped back into place.

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    Why not. Its the main reason i binned mine. Never left side stand down since my learning days and even then i have never fell off when it dug in. It just jumped back into place.
    Thank god for technology

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
    Maybe they don't want a learner to go down the road with his side stand down.
    My bike is quite low tech .Its a 2019 Ducati multistrada.
    Surprisingly I have no main stand and can start with the side stand down.

    Not sure if engine oil pumps know which way u the bike is.??
    The pump won't know, but while the oil is cold and thick and the pump is spinning slowly, oil may not flow to the highest point or may not stay there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
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    Because when I go to work I have it on the side stand not the centre stand. I know its a safety thing to remind you to take it off but I always do. Just saves taking it off side stand and onto centre stand to warm up while I get my gear on

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_morti View Post
    Because he doesn't have to turn left on his way to work.

    Depending the engine design, and I would not expect yours to be high tech, the top right of the engine can starve for oil of you leave it warming up on the side stand. Maybe they built this character feature in to guard against that happening? Or they were just too cheap to fit a diode and whatever else is needed for it to run on the stand.
    I do... But I always remeber to take the side stand down. Never thought about the oil and no it's not high tech its my first bike which is why I ask so many questions as I'm trying to learn more. Its just a convenience thing being able to start in side stand rather than having to take it off and centre stand it to start it. My mate has a cbr 600 which starts on the sidestand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mala View Post
    Maybe they don't want a learner to go down the road with his side stand down.
    My bike is quite low tech .Its a 2019 Ducati multistrada.
    Surprisingly I have no main stand and can start with the side stand down.

    Not sure if engine oil pumps know which way u the bike is.??
    Tbf anyone can drive down the road with a sidestand down if they forget not just a learner

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    A cbr600 engine is "just a bit" more advanced than your 125 single.

    Most bikes will start if the stand is up, if on the side stand and in neutral, or the in gear if the stand is up (?) And the clutch is pulled. This takes inputs from the side stand switch, a switch in the clutch lever, and the neutral light switch, runs them through a diode and gives the result to the ECM which either supplies power or doesn't. There may have been safety considerations (you or the bikes engine) in mind when they didn't fit that on your bike... Or they may have just taken the opportunity to save 50p on components and make a simpler circuit.

    Tbh, I'd really suggest you leave it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevep1980 View Post
    Tbf anyone can drive down the road with a sidestand down if they forget not just a learner

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    My dad did that a few years ago on a cbx750 where he'd disabled the safety circuit due to a faulty switch. He's been riding since the 60s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevep1980 View Post
    Because when I go to work I have it on the side stand not the centre stand. I know its a safety thing to remind you to take it off but I always do. Just saves taking it off side stand and onto centre stand to warm up while I get my gear on

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    Wonderful way to waste petrol Usually Most reasonably modern engines don't really need to be warmed up before starting off.

    Especially if it's wet or cold, get your gear on indoors, then go out, start and ride away.

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    Wonderful way to waste petrol Usually Most reasonably modern engines don't really need to be warmed up before starting off.

    Especially if it's wet or cold, get your gear on indoors, then go out, start and ride away.
    Was always told not to just jump on and ride off

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