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    There has been quite a lot of comment over the last year or two about the abilities (or deficiencies) of some braking automation, etc.

    Research to develop those systems:


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    Interesting...

    Nevertheless, until such time as ALL cars are fitted with motorcycle detection / avoidance systems, the main use of this research is to give some support to the kind of work we're doing in making riders more aware of just where drivers make mistakes... and so where extra rider care is required.

    FWIW, I flagged up the 'oncoming car turns across rider's path' crash recently in my column in 'The Road'. I have in the last hour been forwarded an email from a reader who read that column:

    "His article in the latest edition of ³The Road² struck a chord with me. I
    am an advanced rider and I do not recall the above specific danger ever
    being drawn to my attention in all my Rider training or in any of the books
    I have read about advanced riding.

    "I experienced this very danger when approaching a set of crossroads on the
    Fosse Way with my Wife on the pillion...

    "I could not see a car intending to turn right towards
    Warwick, because its presence was obscured by a van heading towards
    Moreton-in-Marsh, until it started to turn right across my path. I braked
    as hard as I dared with a pillion, the driver then saw us and stopped about
    two thirds of the way across the road and in front of us. I was able to
    counter steer through the gap between the front of that car and the one
    waiting at the cross roads."

    And I've just been delivering 'Ride Skills' at Brands Hatch today, and alerting riders to look out for this collision at junctions was part of the presentation.

    But even with all my courier experience, it wasn't something I was aware of until I took a BikeSafe course with the Met back in 2002.

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    At 3:00 there's a great example of the CBCC - constant bearing collision course.


    And re your final section in that FB article, I had a 'new one' last Saturday. I dread to think how many times I've been around roundabouts in 43 years of riding and driving, so this really could have been a 'one in a million' event. Someone ambling the wrong way around a roundabout. From 9 to 3 (on a four-arm junction), so didn't save any time. No hurry, then just carried on down a country lane!
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    It seems that since the uber crash/fatality that there has been a big push towards detection and reaction to vulnerable road users; to the extent that the vehicles probably overreact but it keeps regulators at bay.
    Do you know of any of this work done in the UK (TRL or elsewhere)?

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    Interestingly (well, I thought so), as saw a photo recently, from the '60s, of a car with a radar system on the roof - an early automated vehicle, setting the format for current systems.
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    The pedestrian dummies were being developed 7-8 years ago.

    Testing in the UK is carried out differently to elsewhere:

    https://medium.com/@_FiveAI/the-huma...l-eb96b9859ffe

    UK testing:



    Thatcham have been developing AEB for several years.


    Also, on now:

    https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/see...-is-in-control

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