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    Iím much more confident turning left than right. Iím 45 degrees when right, scraping pegs on a left.

    Anyone else suffer from this? Any ideas to fix it? Iíve had it forever, but recently itís worse.

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    Move here to MK, you will get loads of practice turning right.

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    Default Re: More confident turning left than right.

    Roundabout surfing will sort you out.

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    Default Re: More confident turning left than right.

    There isn't a quick answer, as it could be any of a number of things. Any particular bends, or common features/types (open view, wide/narrow roads, etc)? All the time, or in the wet? Other traffic about?

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    Could it be as simple as a misalignment of the rear wheel?

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    Hope not or many bikes have badly aligned wheels!

    All roads any condition, since a long time now. 15 years ago I was scraping both sides, but not now. I wonder if it’s body position, I seem to be more physically into it on left handers.

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    Default Re: More confident turning left than right.

    Funnily i am always better right handers probably because of roundabouts and turn right more than left .... its a head thing

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    Default Re: More confident turning left than right.

    Ever had an off on a right hander?

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    Do a trackday, you'll soon be going round right handers quickly.

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    Default Re: More confident turning left than right.

    Funny i asked the same thing a few years ago as i am better with left than right. Roundabouts are much better to negotiate when in mainland Europe. I do think its more a confidence thing rather than any bike related issue.

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    I remember this coming up as discussion (I thought it was here s/s?) and there was a train of thought that your brain has a preference for certain sides on certain tasks and not to do with being left or right handed. When our feet aren't in contact with the ground this can be exacerbated as the brain is not getting some nerve signals it is used to; most of the time the brain adapts and overrides any flaws but a little upset (could be an innocuous little wobble of front wheel slip that we might not perceive as anything) and the brain defaults to a 'don't go there fella' stance and starts to react.
    It should be a case of training yourself. TVAM used to run a Look Lean Roll course for cornering confidence where a set of cones marked out a massive circle; rider looks to the furthest cone they can see and the cones are gradually removed and looking deeper in until by magic they are touching down. I'm sure there are knee down courses run somewhere, as it is probably a similar thing.

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    Funny i asked the same thing a few years ago as i am better with left than right. Roundabouts are much better to negotiate when in mainland Europe. I do think its more a confidence thing rather than any bike related issue.
    I tried to find a clip on you tube that works on a similar idea. It was a Monty Python sketch with the Amazing Mystico and Janet. He builds a tower block by the power of positive thought but when Reg Gumby Decides he doesn't believe it starts to shake and crumble, then he does believe in it and goes back to normal. Keith Code probably has some Californian mantra that would apply.

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    I don't have any links to support this but hopefully Spin or one of the others might have heard of this.

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    Do a trackday, you'll soon be going round right handers quickly.

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    Unless the track goes anti-clockwise...

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    I’m much more confident turning left than right. I’m 45 degrees when right, scraping pegs on a left.

    Anyone else suffer from this? Any ideas to fix it? I’ve had it forever, but recently it’s worse.
    On the road? In a bend? Camber's working against you on a right-hander, presuming you're positioning left in lane and you're riding in the UK. There's also the illusion of open space on the other side of the centre line in a left-hander which means riders tend to be happier to give it some angle dangle, whereas on a right-hander, you're off the road if you get it slightly wrong.

    On the track I'm better on left-handers mostly because (I think) when hanging off, the throttle is easier to use when leaning off to the left.

    There's also a rather complicated theory about the visual centres of the brain - I can't find the link now but IIRC it was hypothesised that because the visual data is processed in one hemisphere it takes slightly longer to reach from one eye than the other.

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    Typing on phone today so, sorry, no long replies.

    If you do Facebook, Spin did a long post on this 'fairly' recently.

    There are so many potential factors:
    - machine set up, are the controls comfortable
    - bend set up, for example as you can see less through a LH bend, do you slow earlier, conversely leave it later on RH so aren't prepared to roll on the throttle etc?
    - body position, are you more comfortable one side? Do you position differently on L or R?
    - camber, on a RH can feel as if it's 'throwing' you outwards, if using lines then you have to drive 'up' the camber and the feel will change. On lefts, camber works for you. Leaning more on rh bend camber may alter how tyres feel.
    - on R bends you have the scenery closer, lefts give the (false?) impression of room for error

    No easy answers! Book a session with Spin, he'll find and sort it!

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