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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    Most of todays bikes have lots of systems, fuel, brake ,electrics, etc. And which causes the most problems?

    Electric, every time.

    IME it's corrosion that gives me the most problems.

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    If you could replace it all with a motor with one (?) moving part, why not?
    This is the other main reason I like the sound of electric motors. No oil, filters, valve checks etc.

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    If you consider bikes simply as a mode of transport then I suspect electric would be a good choice. Personally I like the involvement required with my old bikes. Setting the tappets, tuning the carbs (gotta love Amals that change their state of tune according to the moon phase), even the ritual of tickling the carbs and kick starting (while praying to the god of internal combustion) are all part of the ownership experience for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidge View Post
    If you consider bikes simply as a mode of transport then I suspect electric would be a good choice. Personally I like the involvement required with my old bikes. Setting the tappets, tuning the carbs (gotta love Amals that change their state of tune according to the moon phase), even the ritual of tickling the carbs and kick starting (while praying to the god of internal combustion) are all part of the ownership experience for me


    They have a detachment much like operating a P.C. a means to an end rather than any personal connection, they are the future of motorcycling.

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    They have a detachment much like operating a P.C. a means to an end rather than any personal connection, they are the future of motorcycling.

    Maybe so - however I'm looking forward to trying one and I don't think the curve-riding experience will be any worse (assuming they handle 'like a bike', which they should), which is a main part of riding for me. I'm not too fussed about the engine noise, maintenance stuff (not that I dislike it, but I'd rather be riding ).

    I am hoping they start to come down in price soon though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    Maybe so - however I'm looking forward to trying one and I don't think the curve-riding experience will be any worse (assuming they handle 'like a bike', which they should), which is a main part of riding for me. I'm not too fussed about the engine noise, maintenance stuff (not that I dislike it, but I'd rather be riding ).

    I am hoping they start to come down in price soon though.
    Ultimately a less involving ride, I'm sure they'll handle predictably, once the novelty of riding an electric motorcycle has worn off though I'm sure many will discard them like a child at Xmas with a battery operated toy.

    They are still the future of motorcycling though, there's very few of today's youth, compared with say 40yrs ago who can be arsed to mess about with bikes.

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    They have a detachment much like operating a P.C. a means to an end rather than any personal connection, they are the future of motorcycling.
    I just don't get that IF you enjoy RIDING.

    If you enjoy spannering, then any modern bike is just as big a turn off, with its big plastic panels that say "here there be dragons" and a handbook which says "consult your dealer" for every routine procedure, and I get why an electric motorcycle wouldn't tick any boxes.

    But if it's the riding experience that matters, whether it's the enjoyment of getting a bend 'just so' or being out on a deserted road and soaking up scenery, then I cannot see why the mode of powering the machine (range concerns aside) is so much of an issue.

    (And virtually ALL my PCs have been tweaked to do better than they arrived from the factory )

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceBurner View Post
    Maybe so - however I'm looking forward to trying one and I don't think the curve-riding experience will be any worse (assuming they handle 'like a bike', which they should), which is a main part of riding for me. I'm not too fussed about the engine noise, maintenance stuff (not that I dislike it, but I'd rather be riding ).

    I am hoping they start to come down in price soon though.
    I don't like the Zero Monster-esque over the front wheel riding position particularly, but they handle. I didn't get them to knee-down angles, but they are nimble and sharp-handling around bends and typical urban issues like mini-roundabouts and tight junctions. They're also lighter than many ICE bikes. The lack of mass helps with the speed of turn. Be fun to blag one for a track day (and get someone else to cover the insurance disclaimer).

    I'd like a slightly more relaxed riding position and a fairing. If they brought out a Tracer 900-styled Zero, I'd have a hard time resisting.

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    But if it's the riding experience that matters, whether it's the enjoyment of getting a bend 'just so' or being out on a deserted road and soaking up scenery, then I cannot see why the mode of powering the machine (range concerns aside) is so much of an issue.
    Exactly, braking for the bend, down through the gearbox, listening to the engine and getting in the right gear to deliver the power on the exit, then up through the box listening to when the engine wants to change gear to keep it accelerating. If I want to look at scenery I pull over, it's safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    Exactly, braking for the bend, down through the gearbox, listening to the engine and getting in the right gear to deliver the power on the exit, then up through the box listening to when the engine wants to change gear to keep it accelerating. If I want to look at scenery I pull over, it's safer.
    Given a choice, I'd pick a vehicle with a gearbox over an auto for fun riding, it's true... but after getting used (again) to the lack of a clutch, it's no big deal and really, that wave of torque as you twist the throttle has it's own grin factor.

    And there's that jet engine whistle to keep you company

    Actually, there are electric bikes with gearboxes - they had to develop them for the TT. So it will be interesting to see how the two technologies combine.

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    I just don't get that IF you enjoy RIDING.

    If you enjoy spannering <snip>
    The two aren't mutually exclusive though are they? Given the choice I'll take an old IC engined bike which I enjoy riding and spannering. Of course that choice may be legislated away in the future, or it may simply be that I, and those like me, will be the equivalent of today's steam traction engine enthusiasts

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    Mixed bag for me. I love the idea of electric bikes, but then I love twist n go scoots. Equally, I love riding a geared bike and especially one with a loud pipe on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidge View Post
    The two aren't mutually exclusive though are they? Given the choice I'll take an old IC engined bike which I enjoy riding and spannering. Of course that choice may be legislated away in the future, or it may simply be that I, and those like me, will be the equivalent of today's steam traction engine enthusiasts

    I thought we already were....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidge View Post
    The two aren't mutually exclusive though are they? Given the choice I'll take an old IC engined bike which I enjoy riding and spannering. Of course that choice may be legislated away in the future, or it may simply be that I, and those like me, will be the equivalent of today's steam traction engine enthusiasts
    Aren't they?

    If the bike's in bits, it's hard to ride

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