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    We just had fibre broadbeans installed and the engineer said there are 2 'outputs' on wifi. One about 50 Mbs for average devices, and a much faster one for posh devices with something special installed.

    Anyway, I've tried a few devices and get very different results. I used 3 speed test websites

    5 year old Toshiba laptop - 25 Mbs
    4 year old Asus tablet - 50 Mbs

    Newish Samsung J5 phone - 15 Mbs
    Brand new Samsung tablet - 15 Mbs


    So why the big differences? Older stuff is better which is surprising

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    Yeah, bit odd the older devices being faster. It might be down to which frequency the devices are using - either 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz.

    Some reading for you if you are so inclined - 5 GHz vs 2.4 GHz Wireless Networks

    Now I would have thought that the newer devices would use the 5 GHz frequency and the older devices 2.4 GHz. So, you would expect the newer devices to be faster.

    Dunno - maybe you've got left hand thread wifi being in foreign lands with right hand devices?



    Edit: Another thing to consider is which channels the devices are using - and whether they are configured to use a set channel or can they auto select a channel?

    To explain - the 2.4GHz mentioned earlier is a teeny bit misleading as the frequencies used are 2.4GHz and a bit. There can be up to 14 channels all based on 2.4 GHz - channel 1 is centered on 2.412 GHz, channel 2 on 2.417 GHz, channel 3 on 2.422 GHz and so on.

    If two devices are set up to use the same channel, say channel 3, then they have to share - and the speed each is capable of will depend on whether they are both trying to access at the same time, how far apart they are, if your neighbours devices are also using the same channel etc.

    It is obviously better to use different channels. Some devices can auto select a "free" channel - though this tends to be "free" when they are turned on and doesn't take into account if another device wants to use that same channel some time later.

    A bit complicated I admit, but that's modern technology for you.

    It all boils down to getting your devices to use different channels.
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    Ta. That made a bit of sense

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    My old Dell could not handle the new speed when i switched to Fiber. Turned out to be my older wireless card could not handle the new speed. Bought a USB dongle and its whizzing round the internet at full speed.

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    There's different standards for wifi.

    To get the fastest speeds your devices (and router) need to support 802.11ac.

    Some of your devices may be 802.11n and some (if they're really old) might be 802.11g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    There's different standards for wifi.

    To get the fastest speeds your devices (and router) need to support 802.11ac.

    Some of your devices may be 802.11n and some (if they're really old) might be 802.11g.
    IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g so say a spec web page. I did buy a faster internal card but the drivers provided crashed the laptop every now and then and could not get another or update so binned that for a little USB one.

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    The Kodi box is wired to the router and has quite big numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    There's different standards for wifi.

    To get the fastest speeds your devices (and router) need to support 802.11ac.

    Some of your devices may be 802.11n and some (if they're really old) might be 802.11g.
    What he said.

    New wireless card time if you want fastest speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    The Kodi box is wired to the router and has quite big numbers
    255 up, wow.

    We only have 10 up in schools!

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    Blimey. It must have been downhill with a tailwind today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    Blimey. It must have been downhill with a tailwind today
    Your upload speed is higher than download.

    How does that come about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutin View Post
    Your upload speed is higher than download.

    How does that come about?
    Maybe coz we've got a volcano in the back garden ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    Maybe coz we've got a volcano in the back garden ?
    That could be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorick View Post
    Blimey. It must have been downhill with a tailwind today
    You should have a word, I thought you'd signed up to a 500Mb service.

    I've just downgraded my fibre from 70 odd down to 50 odd, more than enough for a family of 3 even if one of them is glued to youtube, instagram etc 24/7

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    I've just discovered that Chrome is much faster than Samsung browser.

    I used this....

    http://speedtest.xfinity.com

    Samsung was 30 mps.

    Google was 182 and crashed the site every time

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