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    So here's abit of background history! I've had my full motorbike licence for 4 years now and Every year I say too myself I'll book a ferry across to Europe and go on an adventure. From every excuse too lack of funds, unable to find someone also able too take time off work to even ill have too buy a second bike because mine isn't suitable!! Pretty much I've been holding myself back from achieving something that is well with my reach! So next year with a little planning and any advice is welcome I'm going too make this little dream a reality. So here's what I have so far
    Day 1:Portsmouth to Santander

    Day 2: Santander to picos de Europa

    Day 3: picos de Europa to Pyrenees national park

    Day 4: picos Europa to the Millau bridge (I would just like too see it because it looks crazy big!!)

    Day 5: millau to route napoleon

    Pretty much from then on I'm open too ideas as too what you guys have done/seen/experienced that you think would be worth seeing and also what time of the year would be best. I'm definately interested in anything related too World War One & two but would also enjoy seeing parts of France maybe not so built up and touristy. So any help would be much appriecetd

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    I'm hoping day four is a typo

    I'd take in Andorra, just to say I've been.

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    Maybe chill out after all that with a Flashtour?

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    I did a Normandy tour on a scooter! Just go for it. FWIW, going over the Milau bridge is a bit disappointing. Its much better seen from below and I rather liked Milau and decided to stay a night there when i went.

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    Advice? Tempting as it is to pack lots in, try to avoid it.

    Plan shorter days. An average of 200 miles per day will let you see more, and will be far more enjoyable. Some days going from A to B can be much longer, but you won't see that much, balance them with short days, or even no-bike days. Big fast roads are nice, but a big fast road in Spain looks much like a big fast road in France. Little country roads let you see the real country, but they aren't fast. Towns and cities can be fascinating, but are often best explored on foot.

    Route advice? Not (yet) been to Spain on a bike, nor the Millau bridge so can't really help. From talking to others who have been, the Picos, the Pyrenees, and home via the Millau Bridge would be a pretty full 2 week tour.

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    Best bit about the Milau bridge is the Gorges du Tarn out to the north east on the D907, its a really nice ride up and down following the river. Watch out of its wet though, its really easy to spin up the rear on the glossy tarmac

    The bridge itself is okay but you can see from the photo of me an a couple of matesgoing over it that the sidewalls are too high for you to be able to see down. its actually more impressive from the view point below (1,000ft below)


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    Cheers for the replyís people!!. Taipan.. to be fair that does sounds like fun going round Normandy on a scooter, as long as your out and seeing new things thatís all that matters!! Fingers crossed it was above 50cc though😂

    Cousin jack..everything you said has made complete sense, although the idea in my head was too complete hundreds of miles and fit in as much as possible that would mean literally seeing a lot of different places but actually very little of them. So Iím going too take your advise and maybe slow it all down abit to take my time in each destination I go too. Letís be honest that is the whole point!

    Giantpygmy... see this is exactly the information you can only get from a forum like this!! Il have to checkout the D907.. I guess It makes sense for health and safety point of view having the rails but definately ruins the visual aspect😂.. so maybe il go over it and park up at the view point also. When did you manage to get out there? And what bike did you have if you donít mind me asking? Thanks again lads appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firstgenr6 View Post
    Day 1:Portsmouth to Santander

    Day 2: Santander to picos de Europa

    Day 3: picos de Europa to Pyrenees national park

    Day 4: picos Europa to the Millau bridge (I would just like too see it because it looks crazy big!!)

    Day 5: millau to route napoleon
    Santander ferry makes life very easy but pricey and beware the time you dock.
    Picos is worth 4 days on it's own, miles of glorious mountain roads. So check if the snow has cleared when you go.
    Millau town is lovely, best place to see the bridge is under it. We've driven in blizzards going north form Millau in April.
    Route Napoleon and Gorges du Verdun are decent mountain roads but not over spectacular, we did it once and saw nothing in the thick cloud.

    WW1 and 2 did not play much part in this region.

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    Slight hijack but has anyone got the proper route of the Route napoleon? I've googled but it seems to end in Grenoble, Chamonix, Lyon - depending on which map I look at!!

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    It's just the route of the N85 then on to Castellane, then Grasse, init?

    Well that's the best bit anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    It's just the route of the N85 then on to Castellane, then Grasse, init?

    Well that's the best bit anyway.
    LOL I know it starts or finishes near (ish) to me, so was interested to work out where! (For when I can ride that far again!)

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    Certainly on my list, I have crossed it then gone west but would like to follow it down to the coast

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    I've done it three times.

    2002 on an R6
    2006 on a Fireblade
    2017 in a Sunlight T65 Motorhome... bloody bikers were holding me up in the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPygmy View Post


    Certainly on my list, I have crossed it then gone west but would like to follow it down to the coast

    Interesting as there are some pretty good roads from here to Grenoble

    If you do ever decide to do it, let me know and I might come and join in (depending on the outcome in May!! LOL)

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    Doing the Santander ferry as a solo traveller is very expensive. I'll be living in Spain soon, on the eastern side, which is a long way from the Picos. But I did it in 2019, riding to France to meet mates then riding to the Picos via the Pyranees.

    I would recommend riding from the Picos and on to Northern Portugal, specifically Braganca. The A103 and A204 are probably two of the best roads I have ridden in the World. Even on an Enfield.

    The key is to enjoy your ride and the frequent stops. I sometimes have to do a long distance in a short time, but in Spain on non toll roads, this is fairly easy as the roads are much less busy than the UK.

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