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    So we have the two major parties in internal strife, the 3rd party openly standing on a ticket of not implementing a referendum decision, a PM's decision to prorogue Parliament being challenged in the courts, the Speaker of the House of Commons taking an openly partisan stance rather than chairing the debate, total confusion over where the limits of Government/Parliament actually lie, and the vast majority of the populous bored to death, pissed off, and apathetic, not to mention convinced that 98% of MPs are in it for money or power, and voting serves little purpose. All this with an unwritten Constitution, supposedly based on precedent. There are no precedents.

    Will democracy survive? And what will it look like?

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    Default Re: Is democracy dead?

    Maybe we should try fascism instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFooBob View Post
    Maybe we should try fascism instead?

    I vote for benevolent dictatorship.

    I don't want to do it, but hell, I guess someone has to. I promise I'll be kind.

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    I will never vote again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    So we have the two major parties in internal strife, the 3rd party openly standing on a ticket of not implementing a referendum decision, a PM's decision to prorogue Parliament being challenged in the courts, the Speaker of the House of Commons taking an openly partisan stance rather than chairing the debate, total confusion over where the limits of Government/Parliament actually lie, and the vast majority of the populous bored to death, pissed off, and apathetic, not to mention convinced that 98% of MPs are in it for money or power, and voting serves little purpose. All this with an unwritten Constitution, supposedly based on precedent. There are no precedents.

    Will democracy survive? And what will it look like?
    I propose we take a vote on this.....

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    I couldn't give a fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito View Post
    I propose we take a vote on this.....
    Carlito. Many years no see

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    I've been busy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito View Post
    I've been busy....
    I retired

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    Should have been a poll.

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    The whole indignant hysteria around the assumption that the questioning of / not acting immediately on an advisory referendum = anti democratic claims is another clear indicator of blinkered, anachronistic, selfishness. And a clear indication of a lack of insight into what parliamentary democracy actually is and how it operates in the U.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsignorMartinez View Post
    The whole indignant hysteria around the assumption that the questioning of / not acting immediately on an advisory referendum = anti democratic claims is another clear indicator of blinkered, anachronistic, selfishness. And a clear indication of a lack of insight into what parliamentary democracy actually is and how it operates in the U.K.
    Is it?

    Parliament voted to act upon this result you so willingly call 'advisory'.

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    Parliament enact and repeal laws all the time.

    The one that is going to stick in the craw the most is the referendum. However...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsignorMartinez View Post
    The whole indignant hysteria around the assumption that the questioning of / not acting immediately on an advisory referendum = anti democratic claims is another clear indicator of blinkered, anachronistic, selfishness. And a clear indication of a lack of insight into what parliamentary democracy actually is and how it operates in the U.K.
    Remainers keep going on and on about the referendum being advisory. So fucking what? It was a referendum, the public made its decision and the decision was ratified in law by Parliament and in case you missed it, we triggered Article 50, the deed is done. You can stop banging on about it being advisory now.

    Many years ago when remainers first hit upon the idea of saying ”its ok it was only advisory, we can safely ignore the majority”, I thought it was hilarious that was their preamble to - insisting on another referendum... It’s no longer funny, that ship has sailed.

    It is quite clever of the lib dims to promise not to bother with a silly referendum, they’ll just openly ignore the majority decision. A tricky campaign I should expect “vote for us and we promise we’ll ignore the majority”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyseriA View Post
    Parliament enact and repeal laws all the time.

    The one that is going to stick in the craw the most is the referendum. However...
    Yes but of course, the result of the referendum is just the tip of the iceberg. Cameron was elected on the promise of delivering a once in a generation opportunity to escape from the EU, as Prime Minister he promised to act on the result and we were even told at the time what a disaster it would be to leave because of the risk of leaving on WTO terms.

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