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    So should someone's belief that homosexuality is a sin mean that their children should be excused lessons that teach that same sex relationships are good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post

    So should someone's belief that homosexuality is a sin mean that their children should be excused lessons that teach that same sex relationships are good?

    No.

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    Default Re: What takes precedence, respecting someone's beliefs or LGBT sensitivities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    lessons that teach that same sex relationships are good?
    Is that what they actually teach?

    Another question, is it 'good' to protest outside of schools? What lesson does that give all the kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    Is that what they actually teach?

    Another question, is it 'good' to protest outside of schools? What lesson does that give all the kids?
    I have no problem with parents of pupils of that school protesting outside a school, assuming they've been through the writing letters stage, how else are they going to make they're opinions known, perhaps you'd prefer a country where people aren't allowed to protest, or perhaps they should only be allowed to protest if their opinion is in line with what's currently fashionable.

    And I've no idea what they actually teach in a relationships lesson, but I doubt if they say same sex relationships are a bad thing.

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    I understand the protests as its against their religious beliefs, but, fact is, kids are going to come across same sex parents as they go out into the world, they may even have classmates who have same sex parents. So whats the point in trying to hide it. They'd be better to let their kids be introduced to it by way of text books, then put their backward, out of date spin on life on it.

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    All I know is, the BBC is in a spin on how to report this one. Their 'right-on radar' must be close to exploding.

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    Default Re: What takes precedence, respecting someone's beliefs or LGBT sensitivities?

    Quote Originally Posted by gremlin View Post
    All I know is, the BBC is in a spin on how to report this one. Their 'right-on radar' must be close to exploding.
    I hate the BBC's 'right on' radar, fucking boils my piss.

    I'm so pleased my kids have finished the school system. All the attention seems to be on shite like this instead of getting the basic essentials sorted. Its apparently more important to learn about same sex relationships than it is to wire a plug, understand a payslip or put a shelf up. Grrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian_Boolean View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-49755250

    So should someone's belief that homosexuality is a sin mean that their children should be excused lessons that teach that same sex relationships are good?
    No.

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    Most of the protesters have been of Muslim faith and many of those the BBC has spoken to have insisted they believe homosexuality to be a sin.
    Religious beliefs do not under any circumstances override the fact that homosexual relationships are lawful.

    To say otherwise would mean that religious law would have primacy over secular law. Which is of course exactly what Islam teaches.

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    I think in the particular case of what is taking place in Birmingham reality takes precedence over religious beliefs.

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    Default Re: What takes precedence, respecting someone's beliefs or LGBT sensitivities?

    i think education should be about teaching kids what happens in the world

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    Fairly surprised the religious fundies even send their kids to school anyway.
    Thought home schooling was their way to ensure another generation of social cripples.

    Meh.

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    Fairly surprised the religious fundies even send their kids to school anyway.
    Thought home schooling was their way to ensure another generation of social cripples.

    Meh.
    I think the stalwart protesters may not be the parents of the students that actually attend those schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demographic View Post
    Fairly surprised the religious fundies even send their kids to school anyway.
    Thought home schooling was their way to ensure another generation of social cripples.

    Meh.
    There is a Bill progressing through Parliament which will ensure that home educated children will be within the educational jurisdiction of Local Authorities. And not before time (imo).

    https://services.parliament.uk/bills...thorities.html

    A Bill to make provision for local authorities to monitor the educational, physical and emotional development of children receiving elective home education, and for connected purposes

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    Default Re: What takes precedence, respecting someone's beliefs or LGBT sensitivities?

    I can see problems with schools working against Moslem parents bringing their children up as Moslems.

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    I can see problems with schools working against Moslem parents bringing their children up as Moslems.
    The realities of Western Society work against religious fundamentalists of all stripes. Not just Muslims.

    I can tell you that I don't want my tax dollars promoting religion of any strain. Comparative religion and history of religion, sure. But the actual history, not scripture as history.

    A couple of thousand years from now, when Manhattan is revealed by the receding waters, the truth of it's existence will not validate the existence of Spiderman.

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