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    4 min 55 sec (roughly) for every mile for 26.2 miles, astounding!!!

    Probably only a few % of the worlds population could run that for 1 mile.

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    Didn't Bannister have pace runners for his sub 4 minute mile?

    I'll check later if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    Didn't Bannister have pace runners for his sub 4 minute mile?

    I'll check later if need be.
    I met Roger Bannister a few times! I was a bit young to contemplate that 4 mins was sodding quick (just knew the adults all said it was) so didn't think to ask about pace runners!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    Didn't Bannister have pace runners for his sub 4 minute mile?

    I'll check later if need be.
    Yes, but they all started the race with him, they didn't swap in and out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    Didn't Bannister have pace runners for his sub 4 minute mile?

    I'll check later if need be.
    Yep Chris Chataway and Chris Brasher ran as his pacemakers. And his sub 4 minute mile record only actually lasted 46 days before someone broke it. But as the first he'll always be famous, bit like Kipchoge

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawker View Post
    I knew an ex-military bloke who started marathon running in his forties. In his first event he did 2 hours 20 which I thought was f'ing quick! He converted to cycling after that and was bloody quick up the hills! But I think that in a racing marathon, over his distance, surely it is easier than running solo? Does wind resistance count for much in a marathon? It does of course on a bike because of the faster speed in the first place. Surely it does when running as well?
    That is truly exceptional and he's obviously a seriously capable and fit fucker (that I wouldn't mess with ) that's Elite speed-
    Dunno what the percentage is currently, but I know a few years (less than 5) back when I started running and was looking at doing a marathon, less than 5% of Marathon finishers were under 3hrs, let alone what he managed, and less than 25% get under 4hrs, which puts both his and Kipchoge's achievement into perspective IMO.

    As for wind resistance, it certainly does for me- probably less so when you're as fit as the top guys, but even if it doesn't slow their immediate speed down that much, they will definitely have to burn more energy, which in a long one like a marathon, really really matters and will determine your late-race pace.

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    I won't be properly impressed until someone does a 4 minute beer mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordboy View Post
    4 min 55 sec (roughly) for every mile for 26.2 miles, astounding!!!
    Better than that. More like 4 min 35 sec per mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrickyDicky View Post
    That is truly exceptional and he's obviously a seriously capable and fit fucker (that I wouldn't mess with ) that's Elite speed-
    Dunno what the percentage is currently, but I know a few years (less than 5) back when I started running and was looking at doing a marathon, less than 5% of Marathon finishers were under 3hrs, let alone what he managed, and less than 25% get under 4hrs, which puts both his and Kipchoge's achievement into perspective IMO.

    As for wind resistance, it certainly does for me- probably less so when you're as fit as the top guys, but even if it doesn't slow their immediate speed down that much, they will definitely have to burn more energy, which in a long one like a marathon, really really matters and will determine your late-race pace.
    Yes he was indeed a very fit bloke even when I met him in his fifties. As a relative cycling novice the Bugger still beat me up Alpe d'Huez when we were there to watch the Tour go up it! Elite is definitely the word for him! He was special, in the army IYSWIM. ! but he you could see that he was built from steel, and wiry doesn't do justice to his physique! He probably weighed 8-9 stone sopping wet! A good an humble chap but not one to upset!
    He'd probably kill me if I put his name on a public forum...!
    I was gonna say, if he could catch me, and that possibility would be very easy nowadays!
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    and the women are at it now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordboy View Post
    4 min 55 sec (roughly) for every mile for 26.2 miles, astounding!!!

    Probably only a few % of the worlds population could run that for 1 mile.
    If I average 9 minute miles over 3-4 miles I think I've done ok. I could probably just about do 26 miles at his pace on a bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowsider View Post
    and the women are at it now...
    Yes. And that was a genuine record, set during the Chicago marathon:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50035304

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    When I was fit I could run 10 miles in an hour (just!). After which I was completely bolloxed. Running 26 miles in 2hrs is simply astonishing. I don't care whether he had pace setters, a mobile windbreak or whatever, it's still an amazing feat.

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    I could beat it, just need a couple of smaller mods like a fan mounted on the car instead of a laser, a sail instead of the pace runners and a skateboard instead of the special shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balbas View Post
    When I was fit I could run 10 miles in an hour (just!). After which I was completely bolloxed. Running 26 miles in 2hrs is simply astonishing. I don't care whether he had pace setters, a mobile windbreak or whatever, it's still an amazing feat.
    Ive been reminded tonight. I used to be able to cover 10 miles across country, carrying 36lbs plus a weapon (another 4lbs or so) in 1:45. Wearing boots and a smock. That doesn't take antpything away from your 2 hour marathon - which remains astonishing - but it puts my 10 miles in an hour (wearing pt kit) into serious perspective.

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