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    When dry it's far too 'brush marky'!
    I refer m'learned friend to my earlier reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    I have used water based gloss and satin.
    It is quick drying. It isnt glossy or even satiny.
    I'm not a fan, but I use it as an undercoat sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    I refer m'learned friend to my earlier reply.
    No mention of brush marks in your post, unless I'm missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    No mention of brush marks in your post, unless I'm missing something.
    Not glossy = brushmarks
    (at least that's what I meant). It could have been phrased better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Jack View Post
    Not glossy = brushmarks
    (at least that's what I meant). It could have been phrased better.
    I bought Satinwood as I don't really like glossy finish. I'm pleased with the satin sheen, but the brush marks just don't flat out very well.

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    I bought Satinwood as I don't really like glossy finish. I'm pleased with the satin sheen, but the brush marks just don't flat out very well.
    Pretty much exactly my experience. All the paint in the new house is satin, but my first attempt to use the quick-dry stuff brought an instant response from SWMBO to do that again.

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    Default Re: Painting woodwork - solvent based vs water based

    Modern paints flash off really fast so if you are used to oil based old stuff where you can go back over it you will make a right mess. You need to paint faster and never go back over it. As it flashes off, it looks horribly streaky, this is exactly the moment not to touch it. Or you could just have some crappy paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillitt View Post
    Modern paints flash off really fast so if you are used to oil based old stuff where you can go back over it you will make a right mess. You need to paint faster and never go back over it. As it flashes off, it looks horribly streaky, this is exactly the moment not to touch it. Or you could just have some crappy paint.
    Yes, I think it's because it was 'quick dry' paint. I didn't necessarily want quick dry, but unless I bought the more expensive Dulux trade water based, I got 2.5l of regular Dulux water based satin wood quite cheap.......which leads me onto my next post.

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    Default Re: Painting woodwork - solvent based vs water based

    So, as you've seen, I bought Dulux water based satin wood paint and wasn't happy with the brushed results.

    In the past I've only ever used Dulux trade solvent based and I wanted to go water based to get the job done quicker, regarding drying/curing times between coats and easy brush washing.

    Other judgements can be based on price

    • Dulux Trade solvent base Satin Wood 1 litre 20
    • Dulux (regular) water based quick dry Satin Wood 2.5 litre 24
    • Dulux Trade water based Satin Wood Diamond 1 litre 25
    • Dulux Trade water based Satin Wood Diamond 2.5 litre 45




    I did lots of reading last night which suggested that the Trade Diamond was the one to get. Valspur was also on my list as I've used their water based satin wood as I had to get a colour mixed. It was sponge roller applied but caused less of a texture (more flat) than the regular water based Dulux Satin Wood, so I figured it could well flat out better than the quick dry Dulux when brush applied.

    So today I popped back to B&Q and picked up a tin of Dulux Trade Diamond Satin Wood and had a go on a small length of skirting on a small reveal.

    Wow, very very impressed. It applies like solvent based, isn't thick and clumpy like the quick dry. Brush marks flatten out like the solvent based. To test a theory, I went back over it a few minutes later, the brush marks still flattened out. I can't see a single brush mark.

    Superb.

    Dulux Trade Diamond is the water based to get.

    That window sill I did is going to be sanded down and redone with the Diamond!


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    The only thing I will say about this paint though, is make damn sure any horizontal brush strokes are very even (skirting boards for example) as it runs very easily and you might come back to it later with it looking like curtains of drips. One area I had to sand down and re-do, but it is good water based paint that's for sure.

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