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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPygmy View Post
    Looks great,

    What are they? 24 Kgs?
    Did you miss off a 0?

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    Mine's just under 25kg, bloody heavy when you have to carry it over an obstacle. But, the weight means nothing when you're riding it with a little assistance, which i guess is partly the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordboy View Post
    Mine's just under 25kg, bloody heavy when you have to carry it over an obstacle. But, the weight means nothing when you're riding it with a little assistance, which i guess is partly the idea.
    I rode one in France in the summer (a 3 year old full suspension Moustashe with Bosch drive) I couldn't believe how well it rolled on the flat and on minimum assistance (which lasts for LOTS of miles, it was easy up gentle inclines. Down hill was aces of course

    All that was on tarmac - empty back lanes in Burgundy.

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    Never ridden a Giant but on the emtb forums the owners seem to love them. They always seem to say they get really good range too but there is a million different factors that affect that.

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    We all had a try on the ebike today after getting back from Swinley.

    It was certainly interesting that's for sure, the hills just don't exist. Then even coming down it seems to carry it's weight amazingly well and carried speed where none should actually exist. It rolls and rolls so well.

    It's still not something that holds any interest to me as a bike to own, I don't actually like the weight from a trail pop perspective, I want poppy, active, exciting, this just steam rollers.

    Swinley was absolutely brilliant with my lad today, all off piste getting lost and finding random stuff to jump and session. Excellent, really really good. His 8 weeks off from breaking his hand hasn't affected his ability or bottle, his little legs and lungs were not quite 100% but that's ok.

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    Stuck the beast on the scales of truth today, pretty much exactly 25kg it comes in at.
    Took front tyre off to tape it up, there must be 1/2 kg in that tube, it's huge!!!!
    Doesn't need tape as amazingly, tubeless ready does actually mean tubeless ready.
    Sadly I've only got 1 tubeless valve in the spares so I've had to order another pair so I can do the rear.
    No wonder it felt hard though, just on 45psi it had in the front, I expect the back to be the same, I'm more used to something around 30. So we'll see how it feels once it's finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeksy View Post
    Stuck the beast on the scales of truth today, pretty much exactly 25kg it comes in at.
    Took front tyre off to tape it up, there must be 1/2 kg in that tube, it's huge!!!!
    Doesn't need tape as amazingly, tubeless ready does actually mean tubeless ready.
    Sadly I've only got 1 tubeless valve in the spares so I've had to order another pair so I can do the rear.
    No wonder it felt hard though, just on 45psi it had in the front, I expect the back to be the same, I'm more used to something around 30. So we'll see how it feels once it's finished.
    We run about 20psi front and 22 rear tubeless on our ebikes. We ride loads of rocky stuff and very rarely get punctures. Great grip in the sloppy stuff too.

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    We run about 20psi front and 22 rear tubeless on our ebikes. We ride loads of rocky stuff and very rarely get punctures. Great grip in the sloppy stuff too.
    Interesting. I went for 30 but no particular reason why. I guess we'll see how she gets on with it. I know people are expecting a bit 'more' but I don't see myself riding it I'm afraid.

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    We had this out in anger today, for the life of me I don’t know what you ebike riders see in them.
    Sure it cruised uphill. Yeah I get that.
    But it’s like driving a bulldozer down it! Heavy, slow, cumbersome. Sure they’re stable, solid. But damn it’s a trail killer. Just really not for me in the slightest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeksy View Post
    We had this out in anger today, for the life of me I don’t know what you ebike riders see in them.
    Sure it cruised uphill. Yeah I get that.
    But it’s like driving a bulldozer down it! Heavy, slow, cumbersome. Sure they’re stable, solid. But damn it’s a trail killer. Just really not for me in the slightest
    some of us are not so interested in the downhill stuff, it’s just purely about being able to get out on the trails. I’m never going to be fast uphill or downhill, so I just do what I can, and what I enjoy. It’s that simple.

    I haven’t really ridden a ‘normal’ mtb in anger for many years so have no idea how it handles etc, so for me, my ebike is perfectly adequate, in fact i could say its fast and nimble, I will give you the heavy bit mind you

    i had a great 8.5 mile ride into the forest tonight, foggy, dark but an absolutely awesome ride. 1hr 4 mins, 7.8 mph average, 1300 ft of climbing, 35.8 mph top speed.

    And you did say that the wife did well on the ebike today, that’s what it’s all about for some?

    Horses for courses, we’re all out there for the same thing just using different equipment. And like you have nothing against either ‘e’ or ‘normal’ bikes, just a different outlook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordboy View Post
    some of us are not so interested in the downhill stuff, it’s just purely about being able to get out on the trails. I’m never going to be fast uphill or downhill, so I just do what I can, and what I enjoy. It’s that simple.

    I haven’t really ridden a ‘normal’ mtb in anger for many years so have no idea how it handles etc, so for me, my ebike is perfectly adequate, in fact i could say its fast and nimble, I will give you the heavy bit mind you

    i had a great 8.5 mile ride into the forest tonight, foggy, dark but an absolutely awesome ride. 1hr 4 mins, 7.8 mph average, 1300 ft of climbing, 35.8 mph top speed.

    And you did say that the wife did well on the ebike today, that’s what it’s all about for some?
    She had a great time yes. I'm not sure we'll fully turn her into a MTB rider, but she enjoyed it.

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    New dropper ordered and soon to be fitted

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    Well that was a minor distaster, after a not inspiring trip to BPW i thought i’d help Mrs Weeksy out by fitting a dropper post. Bought a Specialized Command post as i really liked the one on my boys bike.
    Went to fit it and well, lets just say an Ebike isn’t quite as simple as a standard bike.

    Just to get the first 6″ of the cabling started i needed to remove the lock mechanism, which is fiddly beyond words. It’s then internally (ish) routed down towards the motor, but you can’t get it started without removing the motor cover…. Then you can’t get to the cover bolts as the cranks are in the way and the chainring. Once you get past that you realise that without removing the sodding motor you can’t actually get the cable routed at all ! I simply am not doing that, it’s just too extreme.
    So for now the wife has my wireless Magura Vyron fitted and if she gets on with that, i’ll have the Specialized Command fitted to my G-160 later on.

    What a pain in the backside

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