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    I have been tasked by my delightful daughters to build them both a 3/4 bed, ie 4 foot wide rather than 4'6".

    This is a good thing as I can then make them to fit the room, rather than struggling with a shop bought frame that needs trimming to fit.

    Design is as follows (roughly)



    Headboard is to be made from 18mm MDF and rebated into the legs, so nice and strong. I haven't decided on a foot board yet, but it would add rigidity to the entire job so is a contender. The beds are going to be painted, so no need for posh wood.

    Questions I have are:

    Will 3x2 CLS be substantial enough for the legs and frame?
    The bed will need to be in kit form, so I'll be using cross dowels and bolts - is this the best option?


    The other issue that has been raised, is can I carve their name into their own bed The answer was obviously no, but I am warming to the idea, as long as I can easily make up a template for my router to run in.

    I am guessing that Comic Sans will scale up nicely enough for the template, but what is the best (easiest and cheapest) material to make the template from. I will be engraving / carving the head board.
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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Please excuse the following comment if need be:

    IMO the sides will need to be 150 mm deep. 75mm would flex to much under the weight of two people and a bit of bouncing. I made a high level bed from 150mm x 40mm oak and there was no deflection with my >100kg in the middle of the long side.

    My furniture does look a bit industrial at times though.

    Bed clamps are what you need to make it in kit form.

    I can't find them with a quick google but will be back.

    For the carving MDF will probably do, perpex would be better though.

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Are you going to start a seamstress thread about cutting a matress to size?

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Woodfit are the company you need for the bits.

    Horrible site to search and link to.

    Clamps are BD271 or BD129

    They also do beech bed slats. Worth it for the extra bounce IMO. they also don't splinter and 'pick' at the mattress.

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    Daughters are 12, so on one hand, there will be no bouncing of that sort, on the other hand, kids will be kids.

    I have had a look at timber sizes on the B&Q website and they do 4x2 CLS so I could use that for the rails, there is no reason why I can't add an additional centre beam or indeed extra legs. The slats will be supported by 1x1 or 2x1 down the length and the slats themselves are as cheap as chips at Ikea and the like.

    Thanks so far

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Quote Originally Posted by Mussels View Post
    Are you going to start a seamstress thread about cutting a matress to size?
    Nope but thanks for your input

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    The other issue that has been raised, is can I carve their name into their own bed The answer was obviously no, but I am warming to the idea, as long as I can easily make up a template for my router to run in.
    If they have nice handwriting you could get them to write their own names in felt and follow that with your router.

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Ikea are probably good for the slats, I have to do these thing by post so Ikea aren't an option.

    50mm slats need a 50mm gap, 100mm slats need a 60mm gap.

    Rubbers for the slat ends will stop the bed slats squeaking* and also makes them more difficult to remove if they decide to try and tunnel out.

    *Squeaking may, or may not be, a bonus.

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    Nope but thanks for your input
    A quick Google search shows that a 4' wide (small double)mattress size isn't a problem.

    'Rutlands' had a special offer a short time ago on templates and sign engraving kits. It could be worth a quick look.

    BTW Thanks for starting the thread.

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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    For the 'engaving' as its going to be painted you could do worse than something like these Redmond Stencil Chipboard Alphabet - Clover Scrapbooking UK - Papermaze stick them on and paint over, jobs a good 'un

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    IMO the sides will need to be 150 mm deep. 75mm would flex to much under the weight of two people and a bit of bouncing. I made a high level bed from 150mm x 40mm oak and there was no deflection with my >100kg in the middle of the long side.
    Gotta agree, I built a few bondage beds with a guy I used to work with who is now doing that as a full time job. The uprights were 100mmx100mm minimum and we rebated the 150mmx50mm into them to make the bed sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    Daughters are 12, so on one hand, there will be no bouncing of that sort, on the other hand, kids will be kids.

    I have had a look at timber sizes on the B&Q website and they do 4x2 CLS so I could use that for the rails, there is no reason why I can't add an additional centre beam or indeed extra legs. The slats will be supported by 1x1 or 2x1 down the length and the slats themselves are as cheap as chips at Ikea and the like.

    Thanks so far
    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    Ikea are probably good for the slats, I have to do these thing by post so Ikea aren't an option.
    You could join the 4x2 together, if you rebated them by 25mm then you could easily just sandwich the sides in the middle.

    Ikea bases are def the way to go, they do adjustable flexed bases that are just brilliant, you can adjust them to how soft/hard you want.

    Last bed I build was 4x4 uprights. The sides were cross rebated into the corner so I put a 25mm rebate into the wood on 2 sides, the sides were connected together by a half lap joint.
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    Default Re: Shed Thread: Making beds

    Instead of using slats you can use plywood and drill loads of holes in it to ventilate the underside of the matress.

    Its just another option although I would rather have beech slats myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_slow View Post
    Gotta agree, I built a few bondage beds with a guy I used to work with who is now doing that as a full time job. The uprights were 100mmx100mm minimum and we rebated the 150mmx50mm into them to make the bed sides.





    You could join the 4x2 together, if you rebated them by 25mm then you could easily just sandwich the sides in the middle.

    Ikea bases are def the way to go, they do adjustable flexed bases that are just brilliant, you can adjust them to how soft/hard you want.

    Last bed I build was 4x4 uprights. The sides were cross rebated into the corner so I put a 25mm rebate into the wood on 2 sides, the sides were connected together by a half lap joint.

    How did you get roped into that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheb View Post
    How did you get roped into that?
    I wouldn't want to get tied down with a job like that, sounds like a real bind.

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    Money for old rope I reckon.

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