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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Here's a guide which looks good, the design looks ok too, I can use this as a basis...

    How To Build A Gate | Video | Home Depot Canada
    Eddie is not going to be happy when he see's that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillitt View Post
    Eddie is not going to be happy when he see's that...
    He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Eddie will be fine with it, so long as I mortice and tennon the frame rather than cut and butt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Eddie will be fine with it, so long as I mortice and tennon the frame rather than cut and butt it.
    Well, that was my main concern with the design of it... Looked more like they were making shuttering than a gate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Here's a guide which looks good, the design looks ok too, I can use this as a basis...

    How To Build A Gate | Video | Home Depot Canada
    How do you open that gate from the inside then?

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    How do you open that gate from the inside then?
    In his design maybe you don't. In mine you'll be able to be open in from both sides.

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    I will do. I have something in mind. Have to find a suitable gate post first.

    Actually seeing where you're from has inspired me to check with Watford Timber Co as I'll be that end of Tolpits Lane later.
    They're pretty decent in there, know their stuff (or can bluff me well).

    Kings Langley Builing Supplies is also pretty decent, they have one in KL and one round the corner from my office in Watford too. Less timber though, obviously!

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    Default Re: Recommend me a Double Gated Entrance design

    So, I'm wondering, what are the best fixings to use to fix the hinges to the gate and the other end of the hinges to the gate posts?

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    Default Re: Recommend me a Double Gated Entrance design

    A few ideas, I could use to fix the hinges, some of these

    Threaded Coach Bolts A4 Stainless Steel M12 x 60mm Pack of 10 | Screwfix.com

    And/or these

    Coach Screws A2 Stainless Steel M10 x 90mm Pack of 10 | Screwfix.com

    If I'm worried about gate the sagging, then I could use one of these

    Gate Castor | Screwfix.com

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    Onto hinges.

    I'm thinking of going for these



    Benefit being that I can use a bolt like this General Purpose BZP Threaded Coach Bolts M12 x 130mm Pack of 25 | Screwfix.com where the blank part is on the outside and the nuts are on the inside of the gates, as they'll be opening inwards.

    If I used this type

    then the nuts of the bolts would be on the outside.

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    Or, I could just put the bolts the other side and nuts the hinge side? I guess it'll only be the one per hinge as the rest will be screws....



    Anyway, the tennon and mortice joints, any point in doing it the way where you use wedges?

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    The wedges in M&T joints tighten up the tenon into the mortice thus alleviating the need for metal fixings, cut saw blade width slots in the tenon to accept the wedges, alternatively cut them accurately and cross dowel as per EddieJ's oak framed buildings. If I were doing it, I would cross dowel and use Gorilla glue in the joints as it expands as it cures and will tighten everything up nicely. You need more clean up though.

    Are you using a morticing machine or drill, hammer and chisel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    The wedges in M&T joints tighten up the tenon into the mortice thus alleviating the need for metal fixings, cut saw blade width slots in the tenon to accept the wedges, alternatively cut them accurately and cross dowel as per EddieJ's oak framed buildings. If I were doing it, I would cross dowel and use Gorilla glue in the joints as it expands as it cures and will tighten everything up nicely. You need more clean up though.

    Are you using a morticing machine or drill, hammer and chisel?
    G'morning.

    I'll be using drills and chisel. I have a router but thinking about it would need some kind of jig for that, so best leave it alone. I've reasonably successfully made a mortice for locks in the past with a drill and chisel, so I'm somewhat confident at doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    G'morning.

    I'll be using drills and chisel. I have a router but thinking about it would need some kind of jig for that, so best leave it alone. I've reasonably successfully made a mortice for locks in the past with a drill and chisel, so I'm somewhat confident at doing that.
    I would suggest that lobbing a slot in a door is something different to a proper mortice and tenon joint. No disrespect intended, but for a structural item I would be looking at a machine to do the job, even making/buying a jig to do the hard bit. IME the joints have to be pube width away from an interference fit in order to give structure and strength.

    If you were using the router, you could consider the concept of loose tenons to make the job easier .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly Car View Post
    I would suggest that lobbing a slot in a door is something different to a proper mortice and tenon joint. No disrespect intended, but for a structural item I would be looking at a machine to do the job, even making/buying a jig to do the hard bit. IME the joints have to be pube width away from an interference fit in order to give structure and strength.

    If you were using the router, you could consider the concept of loose tenons to make the job easier .
    I could drill under size, then taking my time, chisel out to the correct size, it's pretty much what I did with the lock. I could also see what kit I've got with the router, not used it for years.

    I've got to decide if I'm going to go 'through mortice' so that I can use wedges. I had the idea of not letting any end grain show on the joints.

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    With your preferred hinge you will have to have a gap between the gate and the post as the pintel is in the middle of the gate. I used the other sort and just reversed the bolt.

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